|   denon for klipsch? | bkgiroux
Jul 14, 2001 7:35 AM | | thnx in advance- looking to enter the 2 channel audiophile world at around $1000 before the subwoofer. i have sort of decided on klipsch SB-2 for main speakers, and a little later klipsch 10" sub. my retailer showed me these speakers through a denon component deck (didnt check models). they also carry sony and yamaha. which of these makers are generally better techno/quality at the $4-500 range for reciever/amp unit? are any/either better suited to the klipsch? thnx! |
| re: denon for klipsch? | Adam
Jul 14, 2001 4:16 PM | | Klipsch are a fine match for the Denon. I would ask that you take a look at the RF line of Klipsch as well. As with anything it is your ears not ours so give a listen. For what it's worth I've never put much stock in the whole idea that x-receiver is warm which means it balances out the cold y-speaker. |
| first of all... | RGA
Jul 14, 2001 9:48 PM | | if you are looking at going the 2 channel audiophile route the cross all the items off your list and start fresh. Better to do it now than spend the money and end up doing it later anyway.
I don't know what dealer you were at but they likely are not a high-end dealer. The Words High-End are always thought to mean expensive, but this does not have to be and in fact can be less expensive than the amount you propose.
2 Channel is what you say you are looking for so look at at an Integrated amp from companies like Cambidge Audio and Rotel - both will have products that fall in your price range. Buy a used tuner at Value Village or Cash Converters or Various Pawn Shops. I picked up a Yamaha Tuner for $20.00 (Canadian Funds) and it's better than the tuner that's in the best Receiver Yammaha makes. Tuners have extremely long life expectancies so it ain't a risk.
A simple reason for an integrated is that say the unit is $500.00 - $250.00 will be spent on the pre-amp and $250.00 on the power amp(of course this is not a true figure because of profit margins etc but this true of receivers as well.
The receiver has the power amp section and the pre-amp section but it also has the tuner section, a display screen for said tuner, a fancier remote for features, more jacks at the back(which likely are worse becaus they have to cut corners). God help it if it is a 5 channel amp cause now they have to use more parts(the bottom of the barrell) it will have to share wiring(disastrous for hum and RF distortion. It will use insufficiant power transformers and more than all of this will sound horrible.
Klipsch are easy speaker to drive so you don't need a lot of watts top drive them. A 10DB increase in listening is considered to be roughly a doubling of the perceived volume level. To get this 10db increase you need 10 times the wattage...in other words if a Rotel at 40Watts is driving a Klipsh at 100decibels you would need a 400Watt amp to drive those speakers to 110db. Have you seen a receiver that can do that? Neither have I. An 80 Watt receiver would give a 3db increase over the 40Watt Integrated(which is hardly noticeable) and most Rotels and Cambridge Audio's have much better figures than they advertise...while receiver makers score worse in real world loads(with an actual speaker). |
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