|   I can't connect my speaker cables properly... | Antonio Machado
Nov 25, 2001 3:56 PM | | Hello there: I have a pair of Paradigm Reference Studio 100 v.2 speakers, which are great; and I recently bought a pair of Transparent bi-wire speaker cables, which are great also. The problem I have is that the ends of the Transparent cables are so rigid that it is impossible to connect them properly to my speakers the way they should be connected (it is to say red to red and black to black), since the cables are red to the right and the speakers exactly the oppossite. I sent a message to Transparent and they told me (1) indeed sometimes customers confront that problem and (2) they have no any idea/suggestion to solve it. So please help me, any idea will be wellcome, best regards, Antonio Machado. |
| re: I can't connect my speaker cables properly... | Mwalsdor@cscc.edu
Nov 25, 2001 5:31 PM | | Antonio -
I was hoping my Email would have addressed the condition you spoke of. I'm a bit confused. I thought you were having problems connecting the "spades" to your "binding posts"? That perhaps due to space constraints or the spades themselves that you couldn't get a good connection. I know the AP cables use these huge spades and are difficult to secure.
If I get this straight. Looking at the rear of your right speaker: The positive binding post lets say on the right, and the positive lead is on the left of the Transparent cables "box". Is that the "problem"? I suppose the (=/-) leads aren't long enought to cross, right? Why don't you just flip the cables over, which I'm assuming have the trademark "network boxes"? Or are your speakers binding posts identical for both channels? Could you just try the one cable on the other speaker if it is configured in reverse? Either one is these should solve your problem. What kind of binding posts do the speakers have? Cheapo plastic five-ways? Do they accept a banana? You can always use one and attach the cables there, that would give you more room should the spades be large or difficult. Hope this is helpful, and sorry if I'm out to lunch.
MikE |
| It's so stiff I can't get any enjoyment out of it. | itellitlikeitis
Nov 26, 2001 4:52 AM | | Sounds like the last bit of advice really was out to lunch.
Well, if the manufactrurer can't solve it, you're paddling in uncharted waters. Here's a few ideas. You could solder some #16 wire to the ends and attach those. You could hook up the speaker ends any way you can and deal with the phase problem at the amplifier end, you could return them (though once they've got your money they'll be tough to deal with), you could get different cables and use these for a clothes line, or if all else fails, you could just shoot yourself. I hope these didn't cost too much over a thousand dollars. That would have bought a nice bunch of Christmas gifts for your family or a cruise in the Carribean. Let us know how it comes out. We'll watch the newspapers paying particular attention to whether or not you used them to strangle the dealer. Just kidding of course. (xx) |
| It's so stiff I can't get any enjoyment out of it. OFFENSIVE. | Musika
Nov 26, 2001 5:25 AM | | "...you could get different cables and use these for a clothes line, or if all else fails, you could just shoot yourself. I hope these didn't cost too much over a thousand dollars. That would have bought a nice bunch of Christmas gifts for your family or a cruise in the Carribean. Let us know how it comes out. We'll watch the newspapers paying particular attention to whether or not you used them to strangle the dealer. Just kidding of course. (xx)"
Of course.
This guy appears to be asking for legit advice. And you "tell it like it is"???
Why are you so angry and rude for no apparent reason? Maybe we should be watching the papers for the latest news on you.
I've got a sense of humor, alright, but I have a major problem with anyone making a suggestion to "shoot yourself if all else fails", kidding or not. (Your other cutesy comments were just plain "none of your business" and 100% useless, but whatever blows your skirt up...)
I hope you never lose anyone to suicide. Really, I do. |
| OFFENSIVE?--you don't know the meaning of the word | itellitlikeitis
Nov 28, 2001 9:53 AM | | I'm glad you enjoyed my posting.
In a world where hundreds of millions of people are starving to death or dieing of diseases that could be cured, I find it impossible to feel any sympathy for anyone who is disappointed with what has to be the most frivilous and useless waste of money on earth. For the cost of these stupid wires, dozens or even hundreds of children in Africa could have their eyesight saved instead of going blind for the rest of their lives. I cannot think of anything more obscene or offensive than worrying about which wire will sound better in a stereo system. As for someone who squandered their money on them and isn't thrilled with the improvement, all I can say is if you don't like it, tough luck. Think more carefully next time. And that really is EXACTLY HOW IT IS. |
| OFFENSIVE?--you don't know the meaning of the word | Musika
Nov 28, 2001 11:16 AM | | "OFFENSIVE?--you don't know the meaning of the word"
You didn't comprehend the meaning of my post...Perhaps you could re-read it before spouting off about people expecting your sympathy for their frivolous ways...or whatever!
If you read English anywhere near as well as you write it, you'll understand that your suggestion to Antonio (or whomever, for that matter) to go "shoot himself if all else failed" was what I found to be offensive. And I don't even believe you meant it literally; I just find you lacking in sensitivity as some people don't find references to suicide the least bit amusing. I realize that I'm probably in the minority in this case and that I'm asking a lot when I ask for consideration of any kind, but I hardly think that my post to you deserved such a beating...But I do think that it deserves to be re-read by you, specifically. If I really didn't make it clear the first time, then I hope it's clear now.
While I don't think it's cute when someone makes jokes at another's expense when all they're doing is asking for advice, I would never have bothered to reply to your post if you hadn't made the offensive (to me, anyway) statement to which I directed you. I neither expect nor desire your sympathy...I don't even know how that idea came into being in this instance. |
| I'm so sensitive, the pain of your comments ruined my day | itellitlikeitis
Nov 29, 2001 4:26 AM | | With so many insensitive people like me in this world, life must be totally unbearable for you. Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Perhaps you should consider my original suggestion yourself-------------------------------------------------------------------------I mean go solder some number 16 AWG (I'll bet your first thought was that I meant you should kill yourself too.) How do you manage to live in the 21st century, surf the internet, and remain so callow? Do you live in a cave or something? I've got it, you must be British. Of course! Cherrieoooo. |
| I'm so sensitive, the pain of your comments ruined my day | Musika
Nov 29, 2001 1:03 PM | | Way too clever, itellitlikeitis...You'd never make it as a mind reader, and I've never seen anything particularly informative (or even interesting) from you, so I hope you win your local state lottery sometime soon. You may need the cash (but not for cables, I know), as I can't begin to imagine how you might make a living...but that's not my business.
What's wrong with being British (not that I am)??? So...not only are you insensitive; you're prejudiced, too! Absolutely charming... |
| Let 'em drink tea | itellitlikeitis
Nov 29, 2001 1:47 PM | | Thank you, thank you. I feel your pain.
I hardly know what to do for an encore. You've made me blush.
Well there's another lesson for you. Don't buy Theil CS2.3 speakers and don't read anything I post. Frankly, I never did get the point of that whole story. Were you trying to say that the guy wasn't a good salesman because he didn't want to give you your money back? That he should regret that his employer lost your business forever? His boss is probably thrilled with him. For every customer like you, he snookered 25 others who were also unhappy but never saw a cent. I'll bet he didn't lose even one wink of sleep over it. You on the other hand were probably so angry you could have killed someone. Maybe that's why my posting hit home. |
| Let 'em drink tea | Musika
Nov 30, 2001 10:35 AM | | "Don't buy Theil CS2.3 speakers and don't read anything I post."
Good advice, for once...but it's too late this time. Drats.
"Frankly, I never did get the point of that whole story. Were you trying to say that the guy wasn't a good salesman because he didn't want to give you your money back? That he should regret that his employer lost your business forever? His boss is probably thrilled with him. For every customer like you, he snookered 25 others who were also unhappy but never saw a cent. I'll bet he didn't lose even one wink of sleep over it. You on the other hand were probably so angry you could have killed someone. Maybe that's why my posting hit home."
Maybe this is yet another example of what a waste of space your rude, senseless and ignorant posts are to me.
Why would I be angry enough to kill, lose sleep, etc. if I lost nothing in the deal? And I even gained some experience and knowledge in the process. Maybe you should try *that* sometime as you appear to have very little of both...
For the reading impaired: My point was, by conveying my experience with said salesman (who is/was also the owner, by the way, which means that he has no "boss" as you again failed to comprehend), that no one but me hears with my ears. In saying that Thiels are excellent speakers and that I *must* love them (if I'd only allow them to "break in" for 'X' amount of years, use certain interconnects, etc.), the guy was telling me that, in essence, his ears hear what mine do...that we have the same taste...that I'm crazy for wanting to return the speakers...and so on. Got it so far???
Many of you at this forum do the same thing, but in a slightly more subtle way. In telling me that there are no audible differences ("real" or imagined by whatever means...psychology, differing taste or perception, etc.), you are essentially saying that you hear exactly as I do, or that my hearing is wrong or being tricked. Can you prove that your ears hear exactly as mine do or that my ears are being fooled, and that I'm "buying the hype" if I hear a difference where there is none? No, you cannot.
That was the point. Or, to put it simply (as skippy did)..."to each his own". Maybe you can grasp that one, but I'm not betting on it... |
| I hears what I hears and I says what I think | itellitlikeitis
Dec 1, 2001 5:14 AM | | I've heard this silly arguement presented countless times before. We all hear differently. We all have different preferences. Yada, yada, yada. A false arguement for rationalizing an endless assortment of inaccurate overpriced audio equipment if ever there was one. Well we all see differently too I suppose. But unless someone is color blind, we agree on what red is and that it's not blue. We recognize a picture of a horse and know that it's not a cow. A photo of a car is never mistaken for a photo of a house. If we see a photo of someone's face that we know, we usually recognize it instantly. If a camera distorted a car so that it looked like a house, no one would buy it. But every year, every company that makes and sells loudspeakers (and other audio equipment for that matter) advertizes that their products sound like live music. Their more expensive ones a little more so. And no two sound exactly alike. And every next year they come out with a whole new line that makes exactly the same claim. How many times can we buy the same story?
The problem comes when we can't remember exactly what shade of red we saw. Or the exact proportions of the horse. If you don't listen to a lot of live (real) music, how can you remember what it sounds like when you're listening to equipment that's supposed to reproduce it? If high fidelity is supposed to have as its goal the accurate reproduction of live music, what you like or the fact that your hearing is different from mine is irrelavent. So if you don't tire of hearing live music but you tire of the sound of Thiel CS2.3, then that speaker is inaccurate and at the price they ask for it, it's outrageously overpriced. As for the salesman, you acknowledge that he is at least partially deaf, and possibly a liar. And if someone tried to stiff me for that kind of money the way he tried to stiff you, I think that like any normal person, I'd be quite angry. Hope you learned your lesson and if you don't like this posting, it serves you right for reading this far. I warned you not to. |
| you grammer is offensive and your grandpa ain't so hot either | itellitlikeitis
Dec 1, 2001 11:47 AM | | I re-read your previous post and this one carefully. All I have to add is that you should have used the word nearly instead of near. You needed an adverb when you used an adjective. Nearly as well, not near as well. Hope this is advice you can use. |
| Antonio | Mwalsdor@cscc.edu
Nov 26, 2001 7:57 AM | | I thought of another option. This may involve a bit more work depending on how easily you can get access to the internal binding posts and how they are attached. When I upgraded the binding posts on my old Infinte Slope speakers I just removed the binding post cover, removed the nut attaching the post themselves and removed the wire that was soldered to a "O" spade that simply slide over the binding screw. If you have access and it is configured likewise you could simply reverse the postive and negative wires on the screws then be sure to reverse the colored nuts on the posts (assuming they are colored or idenified a such). Just an idea. Drop me a line if you need furthre assistance.
MikE |
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