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|   TITUS,,,w/ anthony hopkins, jessica Lang | jsujo
May 1, 2001 6:30 PM | | Geeeeeez, was that a bad, boring, pretentious movie,,,,,,It made absolutley no sense,,,and I like subtle movies. That was a joke!!!
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| re: TITUS,,,w/ anthony hopkins, jessica Lang | gle_helle
May 2, 2001 9:23 AM | | I agree. After all the hype this movie got, I rented it and found it nearly unwatchable. Bad Shakespeare, bad production. Hopkins was excellent as usual, though. |
| Thanks for just saving me $20.... | crunchyriff
May 4, 2001 9:36 PM | | I've been grabbing and putting back this movie at Costco. Now I know why.
gle_helle: I took your advice and bought DUNE. I can't wait to see it. Thanks! |
| you must be looking the wrong way | jesse
May 7, 2001 8:12 PM | | titus was one of the best movies of 99/00 (depending on which years you quote it at). hands down. titus was an amazing shakespeare adaptation. it took the original text and made something more from it. unlike zefferilli's hamlet or branagh's or most any other shakespeare adap. this brings out themes which were only subtleties in the play and may not have even been thought about in the elizabethan era. i can only think of a few shakespeare which have been worth their while: jean-luc godard's king lear, al pacino's looking for richard. all the others are just versions of the play nothing more. if you are looking for something like that go rent branagh's four-hour hamlet or any of the bbc theatrical productions, but if you are looking for an amazing movie which transcends the medium it was brought from do yourself a favour and BUY titus on dvd immeadiately. amazing fox double disc--like all of their post-fight club discs: quality up the wazoo.
sublety is not something that titus was going for. if anything it was so obtuse that it could have been easily mistaken for subtle, in which case you were not able to see to the heart of the film which has large reaching implications in our age of post-columbine, g.w.bush propaganda. films like this need to be seen and taught or else where will we be? left with films like "The Patriot"--one of the most grotesquely violent films ever made. no heart, no compassion, nothing. just pure hatred and shite. (don't get me wrong i love violence and gore as much as the next guy, but if it starts to insult my inteligence or my values in terms of preaching violence for violence's sake without having any idea what the consequences are i think that it doesn't deserve the celluloid/paper/tape/disc/whathaveyou that it's printed on.) |
| you must be looking the wrong way?? | crunchyriff
May 7, 2001 10:57 PM | | The Patriot as you see it? Gee, you must not be happy to be in a free country.
"but if it starts to insult my inteligence or my values in terms of preaching violence for violence's sake without having any idea what the consequences are i think that it doesn't deserve the celluloid/paper/tape/disc/whathaveyou that it's printed on.)"
Hmm. let's see- the 'consquences' of not fighting this war were servitude to tyranny, if I remember correctly.... |
| you must be looking the wrong way?? | jesse
May 9, 2001 12:12 AM | | quite the contrary--the consequences of the war was that, the consequences of the movie were a dumbing of an audience to the consequence-less vilence and sadism which was going on at the hands of the supposid protagonist. i am happy to be living in a relatively free country given the alternates, although i do not know how much longer we can say free. the movie vision of the revolutionary war shown in the patriot is the kind of film that the conservatives are trying to pass off as having good values because it tells a supposidely patriotic story while they lambast films like natrual born killers and fight club which are trying to give people back their freedom while showing them the tyrrany that they live in and, if that wasn't enough, show the stupidity of violence in the media and our lives and how that we rely on this violence because we have fallen asleep in our supposed land of the free and home of the brave. |
| you must be looking the wrong way?? | jsujo
May 10, 2001 7:50 AM | | I dont know,,,I like a lot of foreign films,,,the ones I liked appealed to the mind and heart almost immediately. I dont think that having this obtuse approach did anything for me. I think that maybe its a good movie to analyse and criticise in a film class,,,but for us regular shmoes, I think it was just bad. Its not bad work, it just does nothing for me, because i can guess that it catered to the pseudo-intellectuals, who need to be challenged like that. If i have to watch the movie and have a degree in shakespeare, that is assinine.
There are plenty of movies that have intellectual and emotional stimulation..To me, this movie is just intellectual posturing, just like Magnolia was, or Eyes Wide shut. Same with some Woody Allen movies.
anyway,,,I agree with you regarding The Patriot...I just dont get into any war movie with nationalistic overtones anymore. I am sick of watching death on screen anyway. |
| that's what titus was about! | jesse
May 10, 2001 9:07 AM | | the fact that you are sick of watching death on screen is exactly what Titus was about! it concerns the fact that our society is reveling in films like saving private ryan and the patriot--films which have no compassion for human life (and i'm not talking about their ultimate, supposed, point). Titus is saying that we have to realize that violence is not needed and we have to get beyond this hatred and violence around us before we can go further in our own development.
and personally i thought that it got that point across quite succinctly and beautifully. |
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