|   Speaker compatibility with Denon AVR 3801 | Manoj Talwar
May 17, 2001 8:42 AM | | Hi there,
I have Bose AM 7 speakers already and am planning to buy Denon's receiver AVR 3801 which offers 6.1 channel DTS ES decoder and is 105 Watts per channel in Surround Mode and I think it is more in stereo mode. Now if buy Bose AM10 or AM15, their output is 10-100 Watts max in Surround and 10-400 Watts in Stereo. My question is will this extra 5 Watt per channel affect the speaker system.
If not then is Denon AVC A10SE which offers 7.1 Channel decoder plus THX be fine with Bose AM10 / AM15?
Any other option?
I do not want those bulky speakers as Bose delivers true acoustics and the Bass module can be hidden under the ground as well which is I think is Fantastic and doesn't occupy space at all.
The other option I am looking at - is Bose Lifestyle 50.
Pls advise. |
| Well | Adam
May 17, 2001 9:45 AM | | First let me say that despite the fact I think you can do better for the money than the bose I will not try to sway you. You know what you want so i'll leave it at that.
Second, more power is never a bad thing. You'd rather have more power available than less power trust me. So yes the 3801 would be fine.
Lastly, THX is more of a marketing ploy than anything else. To get the full benefits of THX certifed equipment ALL of your equipment would have to be THX certified. |
| Agree... | Keith from Canada
May 17, 2001 2:13 PM | | More power is not a bad thing. The worst scenario you could have would be to have a receiver that's not capable of outputting volumes that you will want to achieve. If that occurs, the receiver will 'clip' and damage your speakers. So, long story short, a good amp is a good amp and the 3801 has a good amp section.
I've dealt with alot of people on this board and in stereo shops who have developed an allegiance to Bose and I know first hand that it's very difficult to get them to try something else. If you are o.k. with the fact that you could have better sound for less money then I would say that Bose is for you. If size is more important than quality then go with the Bose and don't think twice...they are aesthetically pleasing and others generally associate them with 'quality'.
As for THX, Adam is right...it is a marketing ploy. You'll find great receivers that have the logo and you'll also find some of the worst receivers on the market-place with the logo. It means nothing and should not factor in to your decision. If the receiver you like has the logo...Great! If not, well that's great too.
Good Luck and have some fun! I would also urge you to at least look at an alternative to Bose but hey, it's your decision and your money! |
| NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Bryan
May 17, 2001 10:36 AM | | The budget you are listing goes from $1,300 - $3,700. Bose is name brand only. The sub will not give you anything of value from 45Hz on down and the speakers go from 280Hz - 13,300Hz. The sub goes from 46Hz - 220Hz. You are missing everything from 221Hz - 279Hz and from 13,301Hz on up. That, quite frankly, is unacceptable. Bose also does not deliver "true acoustics" as proven by the frequency response of the speakers. The human ear has a range of 20Hz - 20,000Hz. Bose comes nowheres close to being that good and the focus is on the size and cuteness of their speakers.
Paradigm, Energy, JBL, Def Tech, B&W, Boston Acoustics, ACI, nOrh, Ascend Acoustics, Swan Diva, Edge Audio, and many more companies are better than Bose at a much lower price.
For example:
Energy Encore system w/sub - $1,300
Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 package w/HSU VTF-2 sub - $1,100
nOrh 4.0 package - $850
SVS 20-39PC - $750
Def Tech Pro Cinema 100.6 - $1,250
All will easily outperform the Bose systems and will sound much better with the Denon AVR-3801. Bose = Better Off with Something Else |
| Bryan... | Adam
May 17, 2001 11:21 AM | | I agree completely and I wold have said the same thing except he said he wants tiny speakers and he wants the bose. I mean hell for tiny speakers besides the onles you listed you could have easily gotten the Klipsch Quintet system. Got me dude. |
| Shame too | Bryan
May 17, 2001 12:39 PM | | And to think, a couple years ago I thought Bose was pretty good stuff too. Now I know much better. Perhaps the best thing Manoj could do is visit some specialty audio stores and listen to what they have. |
| re: Speaker compatibility with Denon AVR 3801 | paulbl
May 17, 2001 10:39 AM | | Let me reiterate what Adam says: You can do a whole lot better for the money that BOSE. There are other systems that will do your 3801 justice w/o taking up much more space than the BOSE. However, if ultra compact is your no. 1 priority, and you are happy, then go w/ BOSE. The extra 5 watts will make no difference. As far as your last sentence goes, listen to other systems to find out what 'true acoustics' really means. |
| re: Speaker compatibility with Denon AVR 3801 | SoundsGood
May 17, 2001 11:14 AM | | You cant hide the bose sub because it produces frequencies above 80hz. That sub plays frequencies well into the 200hz range because of the low end limitations of the cubes. Anything above 80hz can be localized. Actually now that I think about it that doesnt even quality for a subwoofer, its a woofer.
If the #1 priority is small size then maybe you sould consider in-wall speakers. They are nearly invisible and would sound much better than bose. |
| re: Speaker compatibility with Denon AVR 3801 | nick4433
May 18, 2001 12:33 AM | | I respect Adam's and Keith's opinion and agree with them most of the time but I for one do not feel THX is a marketing ploy. You do derive some benefits of THX with non-certified speakers too.
Do yourself a favor Manoj and stay as far away from Bose as possible. You will outgrow them pretty soon and will be selling them in the Pennysaver in favor of more serious speakers.
You have received numerous suggestions on speakers/subs and anyone of them will sound much superior to the Bose. The Denon 3801 is a good receiver without the THX but it does offer DTS-ES discrete. |
| Gallo Acoustics Micro system | Dan G.
May 18, 2001 10:06 AM | | www.roundsound.com
5.1 set available at Audiogon for $1100
dg |
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