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|  Help, 32" TV choice, JVC vs Toshiba | wl Jul 5, 2001 8:04 AM | | Hi, I have narrowed my choice of 32" TV between JVC 32230 and Toshiba 32A41. I eliminated sony for price performance ratio. I have paid for a JVC and have not picked up yet and still debating between JVC or Toshiba. I do not need PIP, but do want component input. On store shelf, JVC has more nature colour (looking at skin tones)than Toshiba when both unit on default set for colour. Toshiba is more blueish even on warm colour setting. I am not sure if I can do colour adjustment to be more natural. Toshiba is a true 32" tube, while JVC measured to be 31 3/4". Toshiba's picture is more clear and JVC's coner geometry is not quite right when displaying vertical lines. With the differences I observed, I still can not decide which one to get. Thanks for any advice. |
|  One note on picture/colors... | Josh Studrawa Jul 5, 2001 10:09 AM | | The ISF guy said that TVs come out of box with their colors blasting, and the first thing he does is tone them way down. Like Greg said, this may be one of the issues at the store.
Also, doing a side by side comparison is great, but realize that once you have that TV by itself at your house, you will grow accustomed to it. It will look just fine (unless it's bleeding colors or reds are blue, etc.) after a while. You're going to adjust to the set, so take the side by side thing with a grain of salt. |
|  re: Help, 32" TV choice, JVC vs Toshiba | wl Jul 5, 2001 10:27 AM | | Thanks for suggestions. I have looked at the JVC and Toshiba at both Sears and Best Buy. I set both unit at the middle level for colour, brightness, tint and etc, I also set Toshiba's colour temp at cool, med, and warm level. JVC does not have colour temp adjustment. Even at warm setting, the skin tone seems blueish on Toshiba. Neither place will have a set up for me to try with an AVIA disk. |
|  Toshiba have better picture tube than JVC. | Smokey Jul 5, 2001 3:45 PM | | The picture tube on Toshiba are "FST black superTube" which produce very accurate color. In fact more accurate than JVC that seem to be using a more generic dark picture tube.
Yes, Toshiba is suffering from slight greenish/bluish excessive push which can only be fixed via Service menu. This excessive colot-tint can not be adjusted by an Avia disk calibration.
JVC is also suffering from slightly pinkish successive color push and also this can be adjusted via Service menu and not Avia calibration.
The question here how comfortable are you with tapping into service menu. Since you have notice greenish color push( average consumer will not notice it), then I would say that you have the potential to tackle this problem. I cab help you in that department if you need it. I had own JVC and Toshiba 32 inch in the past.
Given the choices above, I would definitely go for Toshiba for its more accurate color than JVC. |
|  re: Help, 32" TV choice, JVC vs Toshiba | tedman Jul 5, 2001 10:42 AM | | I own that model of Toshiba and I really like it. Like the other gentlemen said, you will be using at home so you won't notice the blueish tinge after a while. I never experienced the blueish tinge myself. I picked the Toshiba because it seemed to have a brighter more detailed picture than the JVC. Those are my 10 cnets worth |
|  re: Help, 32" TV choice, JVC vs Toshiba | Luig Jul 5, 2001 8:38 PM | | WARNING!, WARNING!. DO NOT BUY JVC PRODUCTS, THEY REALLY, REALLY SUCK!. STAY AWAY FROM THEM. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. |
|  Hey, you wouldn't happen to be | Josh Studrawa Jul 6, 2001 6:55 AM | | the Luigi (missing the I of course) that hangs out in the Photo Gallery, would ya? |
|  re: Help, 32" TV choice, JVC vs Toshiba | Brad- Jul 6, 2001 2:14 AM | | Well I went through very similar models, the JVC 36230 and the Toshiba 36A60. Read the review sections here, and take to heart the negative comments. The reason for that is I had the famous MOIRE PROBLEM in my Toshiba. It was VERY noticable and VERY irritating. You will not notice it at a showroom because poor demo signal, screen reflection, and bright light somehow masks this.
When I got home, I had thin horizontal lines all through reds, oranges, and smokey grays. Picture was ruined by this. I later learned that this was the moire problem that others had with their models, going back "3 YEARS!".
For the good news, it seems no one has mentioned the problem on 32" sets, so they may not be inflicted with it.
The pink comments are little off in explanation. I noticed more violet or red in flesh tones, instead of a more natural orange with slight red hues. The tint did correct this, by adjusting to it's 75% setting. There is a good side, the geometry was better than most, but for me, that didn't matter as the distortion of the moire problem rendered the set useless. I just couldn't watch it with all the lines. They were very distracting and annoying.
My pick would be the JVC 32230 but be warned, it only has 1 rear video input on the rear, which shares an S-video connector and a composite connector. It's an either or, but not both ordeal. The video 2 input is a DVD component input only, and not a standard composite/video input used on most equipment. I needed one input for my S-video output and another for my composite video output. This TV couldn't do basic switching so I had to return it, that's when I got the Toshiba nightmare.
Don't forget the JVC 32D302, for roughly $50 more. |
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