|   Subwoofer Cable | gamberkm
Jan 8, 2003 11:30 AM | | Is a subwoofer cable anything other than a RCA composite cable? I have the Kenwood HTB-504, and it came with a long thin subwoofer cable. Would anything be gained by getting a better quality cable? Could it change the "quality" of the bass, if their is such a thing? Would I notice an audible difference. Right now the sub sounds great for DD, and is more than loud enough. |
| re: Subwoofer Cable | midfiman
Jan 8, 2003 11:42 AM | | I don't think you're going to gain any noticable audible difference. I tried replacing my $25 Acoustic Research subwoofer cable with a friend's much more expensive one to test out and I couldn't tell ANY difference.
Now if someone was to pull out testing equip and all that stuff, I'm sure there is probably some measurable difference, but nothing audible IMO. Save your money. |
| re: Subwoofer Cable | Bowmah
Jan 8, 2003 12:19 PM | | There is probabyl no audible difference BUT, it sounds like you have a thin cable. I would at least go up to a thicker cable. Even just an entry level Acoustic Research or Radio Shack cable has to be better than the one that came with your receiver.
Just my 2 cents, hope this helps.
Bowmah |
| re: Subwoofer Cable | Jimi hendrix
Jan 8, 2003 2:22 PM | | Iused a cheap regular RCA cable and it sounded o.k.Then someone suggested I check out the "Monster 201 interlink sub cable".Using no equipment other than my ears,I played dvd's that I was familiar with and played certain parts of those movies where there was a lot of bass,i.e Fast and the furious,Pearl Harbor.The bass still packed a punch but was more defined,contolled,tight,I was pleasantly surprised to say the least,it was like I had a new top of the range sub added to my set up.So I highly recommend this cable you will notice the difference I promise you."Monster 201 interlink subwoofer cable" if you get one I would be interested in hearing your opinion. |
| re: Subwoofer Cable | starz2171
Jan 8, 2003 3:20 PM | | I agree whole heartedly that getting a thicker better shielded cable does make a difference as long as your sub is up to par. The Interlink is a step up from the cheap zip cord manufactures provide and you will get what you paid for in most cases. Try different cables with your sub and make the test yourself. Top of the line cables can go a long way in improving your system IMHO. I switched from a Monster Bass 400 to their M series M1000i for connecting my Sunfire MKIV and it allowed the sub to reach its full potential. Demo different cables for your sub and hear for yourself.
Peace Out |
| Unless the cable is real thin........ | Smokey
Jan 8, 2003 6:13 PM | | ....., you wouldn't hear the difference if upgrading to better cable. Sub frequency are extremely low (almost DC), and any decent interconnect will do the job. The only improvement you might notice going with better cables might be better shielding which can come in handy in a noisy HT environments. |
| I disagree!!!..... | Jimi hendrix
Jan 8, 2003 11:54 PM | | You can hear the difference by upgrading to a better cable,trust me!! |
| Well....... | Smokey
Jan 9, 2003 6:04 AM | | I really don't see any improvements by going with better cable except may be better shielding (as it was said). You said in your post that you noticed "more defined, controlled and tighter bass" with new cable for your Sub. I don't see how one would get those benefit from a cable??
Even if we consider the worst case scenario (a long thin flimsy interconnect), you will get lower output power to the Sub (due to excessive resistance of thin) which mean slightly lower volume, and slightly higher [background] noise and 60 Hz hum picked up from power cords by IC due to inadequate shielding.
Once these two issues have been solved (thinness and shielding) which can be had with a basic "quality" cable (note I didn't say expensive), then really there is nothing to improve upon and cable become transparent.
I don't see how a cable can effect bass as to make it more tight, defined and controlled?????....since these issue are addressed by Sub location and room's acoustic. If you have answer to that question, please enlighten us as I don't have a clue :) |
| Well....... | DK-Canada
Jan 9, 2003 7:47 AM | | I have to agree with Jimi Hendrix on the monster interlink sub cable. It did make a noticeable difference on my system. I was running a cheap monster RC cable and took the dealers recommendation and bought the interlink (paid about $80cnd) I did notice a difference in base response. |
| Well....... | Jimi hendrix
Jan 9, 2003 8:36 AM | | The sub is in the same place as it's always been {by the right speaker}and with the old cheap rca cable the bass was loose,I used Pearl harbour and a number of other dvd's that have heavy bass sequences and as I said with the old cheapo rca cable it was loose and didn't sound that great to be honest, but with the Monster interlink 201 subwoofer cable listening to those exact same sequences I noticed that the bass was more accurate,more natural just a better bass response,I'd done nothing to the sub I just replaced the old cable with the new and listened, and was really impressed ,so the cable made the difference that's why when people ask is it worth upgrading to a proper good quality sub cable, then from my experience my answer is yes, it cost me around $90 but in my opinion it was money well spent.I must admit I was very sceptical when the guy told me I would notice the difference {better bass response etc} but he said if I wasn't happy bring it back and get a full refund, so I had nothing to lose and everything to gain,and thats all she wrote!!! |
| I am still not convinced :) | Smokey
Jan 9, 2003 4:44 PM | | To me if a cable color the sound (for good or worse), is asking for trouble because cables are not suppose to do that. The best cable are the type that will transfer signal from point A to point B without any of its signature, and if a cable does what you said it had done, then it is not a good cable because of sound coloration.
Suppose you use the same cable that cause tighter and more defined bass to your Sub for your amp connection (between amp and CD player) that contain "higher" frequency. What kind of effect would this cable have on higher frequency? Will it make the higher frequency tighter and more defined, or would it make it more harsh.
As you can see, if you apply same scenario that happened to your Sub (because of cable) to your main speakers that contain higher frequency, then we will be in trouble. You will never be able to tailor sound to your liking because every cable will have different sound. You can't audition a Sub or speakers any more because cables will make them sound different. I am sure you don't want that.
As to why you heard different sound from different cable I can't explain, but if you look at it theoretically, electronically and physically, there is no answer because it doesn't exist. It is just a speculation :) |
| I am still not convinced &one more question!!!{smokey} | Jimi hendrix
Jan 10, 2003 12:52 AM | | You seem to have more knowledge than I do on the subject,if it's right or wrong,a good thing or a bad thing I don't know, all I'm saying is that with this cable I noticed an improvement,and this particular cable received great reviews overall, and I'm not alone when it comes to the observations that I made regarding the improvement of bass response using this cable.Anyway I guess we could go back and forth disputing this so I'll leave it at that.Smokey if I may I would like to ask you a question.I've got a Yamaha speaker package{NS-P400},now my HT is set up in our bedroom which is relatively small,my question is regarding the sub, it has Yamaha's active servo technology{whatever that is?}and an auto sensor that cuts off if no LFE signal is detected after awhile{7mins approx}could you explain the advantages and disadvantages of this?Secondly I have a High out dial and a volume dial,the volume dial is set around 1 o'clock and the High out dial which has a range from 20hz-120hz is set at around 80hz is this correct?Please advise.Thanks in advance,and have a Happy New Year!!!! |
| Jimi hendrix , post a new thread :) | Smokey
Jan 10, 2003 4:45 AM | | Why don't you post a new thread about your questions. There are far more knowledgeable people than me that can answer your Sub related question.
Meanwhile read this article. About the middle, it will give you a good explanation of cross over (high dial out) settings. Look under the heading:"dBs rules for great bass in a combined music......":
http://www.soundstage.com/maxdb/maxdb021999.htm |
| Thanks! | Jimi hendrix
Jan 10, 2003 2:03 PM | | Smokey I want to thank you for refering me to that article ,it answered all my queries.Thanks! |
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