|   Your all-time favorite live album? Comp of live faves?? | PwrPopGuy
Apr 17, 2002 4:42 PM | | Mine is: "Cheap Trick At Budokan", (now playing) followed closely by "Frampton Comes Alive". Anyone interested in contributing a track (maybe two, depending on length) to a "Live Comp"? I'd be interested in putting this comp together with contributions of the best tracks from your favorite live album. Maybe it's a live album not known to most listeners but a real gem of a live performance. Or, maybe it's a recording of a band or artist doing one of their songs where they were in rare form and out-did the studio recording of that song. Basically, I'm looking to compile a classy collection of live tracks, from back in the 70's up to today. If you think this could be a worthwhile project and have some ideas already in mind, reply here and we'll see where it goes... |
| Funny You Should Ask... | Audio Girl
Apr 17, 2002 5:08 PM | | Yesterday, I went through my LP & CD collection, attempting to answer this question. The basic problem is that I am not usually a fan of "live" recordings...CD or LP-based. However, one that I discovered in my search which is superb was an original LP release of "Chicago At Carnegie Hall...Volumes I, II, III, and IV".
I recalled that I purchased this collection during my freshman year of high school...the actual week it was released in 1971. I held my breath as I examined the condition of the LPs and inserts. Despite over 15 moves (including to/from Indiana on a moving van, used to support furniture by the less-than-caring packing team members)and being stored in attics during Texas heatwaves and Indiana basements which flooded during a snow storm, most of my LPs are pristine including this collection.
This collection includes the only version of "Colour My World" to own...it is to die for...and this comes from someone who fell out of love with Chicago in the 1970s. To this day, some of their later music can make my skin crawl.
However, back to your question: My research revealed that "The Trinity Sessions" by the Cowboy Junkies is my favorite live performance by any artist.
Sorry for the long story (I have too much time on my hands),
Mary |
| ...I've got a car now. | Stone
Apr 17, 2002 5:34 PM | | He he he.
Hey AG, what's up?
<i>The Trinity Session</i> is definitely a good one.
I think I'd have to go with Ramones' <i>It's Alive</i>. One live album I like better than any of their studio albums is Dance Hall Crasher's <i>The Live Record</i>. It's ska/punk with a lot more energy than their studio versions. Fun stuff.
Stone |
| hehehehehehe... | Audio Girl
Apr 17, 2002 5:59 PM | | despite being blonde, I get it THIS time!!!!!
Once again, you have impeccable taste in tunes...I like your live choices...
Cheers!
AG |
| I guess it would have to be "Yessongs", or wait "Rock-n-Roll Animal", then again I've listened to "Three Sides Live" like a couple hundres times, then there's that live copy of "The Wall" in China I picked up recently, no wait I GOT it "Made In Japan"!...hmmmm.....................
Rick | RPM
Apr 17, 2002 5:58 PM | | approved |
| Yikes! I'm getting as bad as Rae ;-) | RPM
Apr 17, 2002 6:11 PM | | Don't do this:
1) type a message
2) preview the message
3) then hit the EDIT icon (but don't actually make any changes)
4) hit browsers back button
5) and then post message
'cause that's what I did, and the entire body of the message came up in the subject field.
Glad J or Darius never did this ;-)
Rick (dagerous after one beer) |
| Dagerous???? hehehehehehe | Audio Girl
Apr 17, 2002 6:16 PM | | I'm having alot of fun at your expense...again, I have too much time on my hands...
Just ribbin' ya, Mr. RPM!
AG |
| Just look what you did! | 3-LockBox
Apr 18, 2002 11:49 AM | | Do you own the Yessongs remastered CD? If so, how are the sonics? How is the performance? |
| Yes...the remaster... | RPM
Apr 18, 2002 12:57 PM | | I never did an A/B with the original version (which I subsequently sold), but I remember being happy with the sonics when I first got the remaster (brighter...in a good way...and cleaner sounding overall). I believe the performances are identical (ie no <i>new</i> material on the remaster), if that's what you meant.
Rick |
| Just one??!! | RPM
Apr 17, 2002 6:02 PM | | I guess it would have to be "Yessongs", or wait "Rock-n-Roll Animal", then again I've listened to "Three Sides Live" like a couple hundres times, then there's that live copy of "The Wall" in China I picked up recently, no wait I GOT it "Made In Japan"!...hmmmm.....................
Rick |
| SHOUTING + Multiple Posts = | Audio Girl
Apr 17, 2002 6:12 PM | | too much Schnapps????????hehehehehehehehehe!
AG |
| At leasht I have an excushe ! ;-P | RPM
Apr 17, 2002 6:42 PM | | |
| re: Your all-time favorite live album? Comp of live faves?? | BillK
Apr 17, 2002 7:08 PM | | Genesis - Seconds Out (Three Sides Live is good, too)
Peter Gabriel - Plays Live
Jethro Tull - Live Bursting Out
Galactic - We Love 'Em Tonight: Live at Tipitina's
Pink Floyd - Pulse (Roger Waters - In the Flesh Live is great, too)
many others... |
| The Who...Live At Leeds | wik
Apr 17, 2002 8:30 PM | | Honorable mentions...
Rock N' Roll Animal...Lou Reed (That version of Heroin alone is worth it)
J. Geils Band...Blow Your Face Out
The Last Waltz...The Band
Live Rust...Neil Young
11-17-70...Elton John(Take Me To The Pilot or Burn Down the Mission)
Live At Fillmore East...The Allman Brothers
The Secret Policeman's Ball(Pete Townshend's version of Drowned is a killer)
Live Peace in Toronto..John Lennon(I stuck this in there because of the Yer Blues Version..Clapton does a little snippet at the end that makes my hair stand on end)
Delaney and Bonnie on Tour with Eric Clapton and Friends...(I Don't Want to Discuss It is awesome) |
| I usually don't like live albums | Slosh
Apr 17, 2002 11:34 PM | | A standout though is Paul McCartney's <i>Tripping The Live Fantastic</i> from 1990. Over two and a half hours of Beatles, Wings, and solo classics that rock a little harder than the studio versions, plus excellent sonics to sweeten the deal.
A few others:
Tool <i>Saluval</i>
AC/DC <i>If You Want Blood, You've Got It</i>
Judas Priest <i>Unleashed In The East</i> (I only have a worn-out cassette copy of this :-()
Hmm, there must be more...some of Jane's Addiction's s/t is live (some of it is 'fake' live, though)
Stevie Ray Vaughan <i>Live At The El Mocambo</i> DVD (I can easily burn it to CD-R due to its non-copy protected PCM track)
There must be more but I almost always prefer the studio versions. I can't think of anything that I would want to submit for a group comp. |
| D'oh! Just thought of two more... | Slosh
Apr 17, 2002 11:46 PM | | Radiohead I Might Be Wrong and Ozzy Osbourne Speak Of The Devil. Still nothing I'd want to contribute but good live albums. |
| Allman Brothers Live at the Filmore | HYFI
Apr 18, 2002 3:05 AM | | Pink Floyd Pulse
Renaissance Carnegie Hall
An all live comp souns good. Alot of live stuff is not recorded too good though. |
| THE BEST BAND YOU NEVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE | MasterCylinder
Apr 18, 2002 5:22 AM | | FRANK ZAPPA |
| THE BEST BAND YOU NEVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE | PwrPopGuy
Apr 18, 2002 5:38 AM | | Hey Richard, as promised, I took a second listen to "Red Star" this morning. As with the other tracks on the other disc you sent, here's my impressions, which should be taken as constructive criticism. You guys are great players and a tight band with a lot of potential to go places, but I find the major thing holding you back is the songs themselves- they're kinda weak. The recording quality is excellent, everything's in place except for exceptional songwriting. "Red Star" is the better track of the four you sent, the first one on the other disc is not bad but about midway into it, I'm thinking, "okay, the essence of the song has come out- why is the song still going on?" I hope you don't take these comments as being mean-spirited, I'm just trying to be as honest as possible (that's what I'd want if if were my band). Anyway, thanks for sending these and your drumming is superb. |
| I Like............. | MasterCylinder
Apr 18, 2002 7:22 AM | | .......constructive criticism.
Thanks for the kind words.
RED STAR is an experiment.
The story is actually about a very personal relationship with a very special female -- almost a private message.
I don't expect anyone else to know what is going on with the lyrics. As for the music, the song is written around the final section where the marimba is stacked with electric guitar.
I agree with you that the first tune on the other disc, DRAW THE LINE is a bit too long. I did not write it but, it is actually composed as a two-part suite, wherein the chorus is identical for 2 different songs, which are then linked together. However, the guitar work (both acoustic & electric) is outstanding for amateur musicians.
The recording studio we use is very good for a local business; also owned by a friend of mine.
RED STAR is the first digital (direct to hard-drive) recording; the other 3 are done on analog 24-track tape. |
| re: Your all-time favorite live album? Comp of live faves?? | maf
Apr 18, 2002 6:08 AM | | Velvet Underground - 1969
The Clash - From Here to Eternity
Stones - Get Yer Ya Yas Out
Dylan - 1965
The Who - Live at Leeds
Violent Femmes - Wisconsin
Lou Reed - Rock & Roll Animal
Golden Earing - Live |
| Santana "Lotus" is pretty good | unleasHell
Apr 18, 2002 6:17 AM | | are you joking about Frampton? |
| Frampton | PwrPopGuy
Apr 18, 2002 6:26 AM | | No, I wasn't joking, man. That's a fave from back in my high school days. Recently got the remastered disc. The guy's still going strong, 25 years later. (Live In Detroit)- he's a rockin' dude from way back. You don't care for him, I take it? Now, if I had said "Monkees Live" or "Bay City Rollers On Tour", I would have been joking. Speaking of the Monkees, a few years ago someone gave me a cassette of their live album that was recorded back in the 60's- it was just horrible. |
| Hey Rick, do you have any <i>Banana Splits</i> bootlegs? ;-) (nt) | RPM
Apr 18, 2002 7:41 AM | | If so, don't admit to it :-). |
| No, I have the legitimate 8-track "Best of Banana Splits" | PwrPopGuy
Apr 18, 2002 9:29 AM | | in Quadrophonic :o) |
| Santana "Lotus" is pretty good | Mike-T
Apr 18, 2002 6:47 AM | | <b>Santana "Lotus" is pretty good</b>
I second that. It's only by virtue of "Lotus" that I'm able to forgive him for "Supernatural." In fact, I tend to think "Lotus" is his best record, live or no. The band really stretched out on that one, and CS's guitar playing was at its peak. Great rec.
Mike T. |
| Richard Thompson, "Two Letter Words..." | Mike-T
Apr 18, 2002 7:00 AM | | In particular, the guitar solo on "The Way That it Shows" is stupendous.
Also:
Neil Young, Cincinnati Ohio 2/25/70--his best live set ever, I think.
Funkadelic, "Rocky Mountain Shakedown," Denver 1976
Miles Davis, "Live-Evil"
Frank Zappa, "Fillmore East 1971", "Swiss Cheese/Fire"
Fela Kuti, "Original Sufferhead"
Mike T. |
| Hey PPG...About Cheap Trick/Budokan | Mr MidFi
Apr 18, 2002 7:37 AM | | Do you have the 2-disc re-relase? Twice the songs, and in the original set order. Absolutely kills!!!
BTW, I just got their live DVD, Music for Hangovers. Recorded at Chicago's legendary Metro a couple years ago. Pretty much all old songs. The video production values are lacking, but the performance rocks like you wouldn't believe. A good deal at $14.99 American. |
| Hey PPG...About Cheap Trick/Budokan | PwrPopGuy
Apr 18, 2002 9:28 AM | | Yeah, I got the Complete 2-disc Budokan set. Always have loved Bun E's drumming especially on the intro to "Ain't That A Shame". I've got the audio CD of MFH- didn't know they had it out on DVD- I'll have to put that on my to-buy list. I do have the DVD "Cheap Trick Live In Australia", which is really good but dates back to about '79, I think. Do you have the Cheap Trick Silver CD or DVD? I saw that on satellite TV, an excellent concert. BTW, the band is supposedly back in the studio laying down tracks for their next album. |
| Silver? No. | Mr MidFi
Apr 18, 2002 11:04 AM | | It was a choice between the two. Being a Chicago-area guy (one who remembers when Metro was called Cabaret Metro), I opted for the newer one. |
| I like these best | Chip_B
Apr 18, 2002 8:01 AM | | 1. Drippin' Wet - Wet Willie. One of the few things that I will consistently list as my number one anything.
2. Captured Live - Johnny Winter. JDW III at the very peak of his considerable powers.
3. Live at the Filmore - Allman Brothers. One of my all-time favorite records by one of my all-time favorite bands.
4. Frampton Comes Alive - Peter Frampton. I don't care if it's a 'cool' choice or not. Frampton is a seriously underrated guitarist and this is a helluva record.
5. Live - Johnny Winter And. With Derringer in the mix, it smokes. "Mean Town Blues" features some of the most innovative slide guitar ever recorded.
6. One More From the Road - Lynyrd Skynyrd. Steve Gaines joins and the band really takes flight.
7. Live at the Regal - BB King. BB takes a lot of heat these days for perhaps being a bit too comfortable and laid back in his old age. This record represents a leaner, meaner bluesman interacting with an audience completely under his spell.
8. King Biscuit Flower Hour Live - Robin Trower. Although AMG disagrees, I think it far exceeds his earlier live album. The guitar-drums interplay on "Little Bit of Sympathy" is superb.
9. Woodstock. Hendrix, Country Joe & the Fish, Santana, Richie Havens, 10 Years After...there's a lot to like.
10. Hot Ash - Wishbone Ash. Nothing but fun from start to finish.
Honorable Mention:
Waiting for Columbus - Little Feat
Live - James Gang
Road Tested - Bonnie Raitt
On Your Feet or on Your Knees - Blue Oyster Cult
Foghat Live - Foghat
-Chip |
| I like these best | WStan
Apr 18, 2002 9:57 AM | | Hey Chip, good call on the Foghat disk. I did pick up Live at the Regal and had it playing in the background last week for one spin. It is an improvement over the studio stuff. I'll have to give it a few more listens to see if I change my mind on BB, though. |
| re: Your all-time favorite live album? Comp of live faves?? | nobody
Apr 18, 2002 9:45 AM | | Just a few that I haven't seen mentioned.
Johnny Cash: Live at Fulsom Prison & Live at San Quintin
The new remasters are great. You get the whole concerts from start to finish.
Social Distortion: Live at the Roxy
Really good performance that contains most of their hits from the old days through their radio stuff. Some silly banter and a great introduction with a guy selling t-shirts.
Erykah Badu: Live
A great voice singing good songs, and the recording's not bad either.
Nirvana: Unplugged
A nice send off for a great band, really showcased some of their range.
Speaking of Unplugged, why can't you get the LL Cool J unplugged?
Sly and the Family Stone: Stand
Great from start to finish, from good time music to political funk.
I also gotta nod in agreement for the picks of the Ramones Live and the Clash From Here to Eternity.
I didn't know the Trinity Sessions would really be considered a "live" album. Sure, it was recorded live to a recorder, but I guess I just kinda figure live albums usually have an audience. If not, you could dig out a whole bunch of low-fi bands that have recorded their stuff live. Either way, it's a great record. Really, I never heard the Cowboy Junkies do anything since that I was too wild about, but this one was great. |
| Alchemy: Dire Straits Live | WStan
Apr 18, 2002 10:20 AM | | Alchemy is an uniformly excellent live album across its two disks, but the real standout is the nearly 11 minute long Sultans of Swing, which is the finest piece of music ever recorded, bar none. I have no stronger opinion than that, if that puts into perspective how I feel about that song. The way that Knopfler builds up the tempo and the pace in his wonderful solo is just amazing and brilliant.
Let me quote you what some putz named William Ruhlmann spewed on the AMG review of this album.
"There is an interesting contrast on this 94-minute double-disc live album (recorded at London's Hammersmith Odeon in July 1983) between the music, much of which is slow and moody, with Mark Knopfler's muttered vocals and large helpings of his fingerpicking on what sounds like an amplified Spanish guitar, and the audience response. The arena-size crowd cheers wildly and claps and sings along, when given half a chance, as though each song were an uptempo rocker. When they do have a song of even medium speed, such as "Sultans of Swing" or "Solid Rock," they are in ecstasy. That Dire Straits' introspective music loses much of its detail in a live setting matters less than that it gains presence and a sense of anticipation. Alan Clark's keyboards help to fill out the sound and give Knopfler's spare melodies a certain majesty, but Dire Straits remains an overgrown pub band with a Bob Dylan fixation, and that's exactly how the crowd likes it. (The CD version of the album contains one extra track, "Expresso Love," which adds a needed change of pace to the otherwise slow-moving first disc.)"
This clueless, pompous dork needs to be stuck in a soundproof room with a tape playing of whale songs at 110db. Of course, maybe he already does that for fun and that explains his review.
Runners up:
-Luther Allison: Live in Chicago
-Sonia Dada: Lay Down and Love It Live
-Ted Nugent: Double Live Gonzo
-Allman Brothers: Live at the Fillmore
-Walter Trout: Live Trout
-Judas Priest: Unleashed in the East
-Foghat: Live
-Santana: bootleg that some very friendly and cool (for a stoner) dude was playing in a ski shop in Baltimore in 1994 as he sold me a pair of excellent, American-made K2 skis - it was outstanding. |
| Black Flag Live in '84 | Masonjar
Apr 18, 2002 10:25 AM | | I had this for years on a cassette, until SST finally reissued it on CD..
It's very rough.. very noisy and very sloppy..
but for pure visceral energy, it's a blast.
you can almost picture the dark, stinky club with a bunch of misfits standing around going "wha??" and a bunch of punks starting fights, throwing cigarettes and beer bottles at Hank. Great stuff.
Ok, it's not my favorite, but it rules..
my favorite is Husker Du's <i>The Living End</i>.
I mean, they're my favorite band.. come on!
-jar |
| "Donny Hathaway Live" | Worf101
Apr 18, 2002 10:58 AM | | Brilliant, eclectic, outstanding sidemen, an amazing voice and a version of "You've Got a Friend" that sends shivers up and down you spine when you realize he committed suicide not long after that song was recorded....
Outstanding music.
Da Worfster... |
| Wings Over America | 3-LockBox
Apr 18, 2002 11:00 AM | | I'd give anything if I could find it anymore; its been out of print for 10 years, even on CD. |
| Wings Over America - try these (expensive, though) | WStan
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| To do a comp of live faves... | Mr MidFi
Apr 18, 2002 11:16 AM | | ...I'd need more sophisticated recording/editing software. Cross-fades and level-matching would help a lot. But yeah, the thought has crossed my mind too.
J. Geils Band - Live Full House
Cheap Trick - Budokan
Genesis - Seconds Out
The Who - Live at Leeds
U2 - Under a Blood Red Sky
...are all long-time favorites of mine. So is Joe Jackson's "Big World" which is the only live album that I'm aware of where the audience remains silent (by request).
Best quality live recordings include:
Portishead - Roseland NYC
Eagles - HFO
Fleetwood Mac - The Dance
Roger Waters - In the Flesh |
| To do a comp of live faves... | PwrPopGuy
Apr 18, 2002 11:52 AM | | Yeah, I thought of the mismatched levels issue, too. But, if done carefully, it could make for a really cool comp, where you try to do crowd applause sequeways as seemless as possible to give the impression of one concert with different artists. This was the idea I had in mind with this comp but it could present a challenge to pull that off smoothly. |
| Cross-fading crowd noise is really easy. (nt) | Slosh
Apr 19, 2002 2:28 AM | | |
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