|   All black and white with no gray in between | WStan
Apr 19, 2002 12:23 PM | | Can you name any albums that are pure love-hate generators for you, that contain both songs you love and songs you hate, with no so-so ones occupying the middle ground? I can think of two off the top of my head:
1. Lucinda Williams: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road. I love the two hard rockin' blues slide guitar numbers Can't Let Go and Joy, and find them to be great songs, with a lot of drive and punch. The remaining songs are the equivalent to me of getting a root canal without novacaine, with the too-slow, droopy, dreary repetitiveness of the tunes and singing dredging up more grit than a strip mine.
2. Dada: Puzzle. This album is at the opposite end of the spectrum from Car Wheels, as it contains one song I hate - Timothy, a really awful, pathetic, sappy song that basically plagarizes Suzanne Vega's My Name is Luka song - and the rest of the numbers feature excellent tunes with carefully crafted melodies, great guitarwork, and the best dual lead vocalists since Simon & Garfunkle.
Oh, and no lousy jokes about how the title of this thread refers to my opinions :) |
| John Lennon - Double Fantasy (nt) | BradH
Apr 19, 2002 12:35 PM | | |
| Lemme guess. You love all the Yoko songs, right? (nt) | Stone
Apr 19, 2002 12:38 PM | | |
| Okay, BOOM, ya got me. (nt) | BradH
Apr 19, 2002 4:11 PM | | |
| That reminds me. | BradH
Apr 19, 2002 4:16 PM | | I used to live with some friends from Michigan and whenever they played Double Fantasy one of them would always stand by the turntable. Everytime a Yoko song came on they would say, "Sorry, Yoko, no Ono today," and drop the needle on the next Lennon song. This disc was made for cd programming. |
| Hmmm... | Stone
Apr 19, 2002 12:36 PM | | I <b>love</b> <i>Car Wheels</i>, but "Can't Let Go" and "Joy" are my two least favorite songs on it, especially after seeing her live version of "Joy" which was about a 12-minute jam session that bored me.
Different strokes I guess.
Stone |
| Most all Paul McCartney albums, some Fleetwood Mac | 3-LockBox
Apr 19, 2002 2:06 PM | | Tug Of War; the over played Ebony & Ivory [which I liked] and Ballroom Dancing(a typical wince inducing Mac song).
Pipes Of Peace; I liked So Bad, but the rest stank.
Wings at the Speed of Sound; loved Silly Love Songs and Let 'em In, but hated the 'wife' song, Cook Of The House.
McCartney II; bought it for Coming Up, loathed it for Private Secretary.
Fleetwood Mac: Tusk- I loved the Nicks compositions Sara and Beautiful Child, and I liked McVie's contribution as well, but what the hell was Buckinham thinkin. He was trying way, whey, weigh too hard. And I'm a Buckingham fan.
He does the same thing on Mirage. Once again, Nicks (Gypsy, That's Alright) and McVie (Wish you Were Here) shine, but oh my, the Buckingham songs Eyes Of The World and Empire State induce a major cringe.
However, the opposite happens on Tango In The Night, where all Buckingham's songs (once again McVie) sound great and Nicks stinks up the joint with Welcome to the Room, Sara and When I See You Again. |
| Dada | allears
Apr 19, 2002 2:17 PM | | I agree with your asessment of 'Puzzle.' I got lured into buying them when I heard "Dizz Nee Land" and listenend to that disc nearly non stop for a long time. In that song they " toss a fifth of gin." In your opinion does the bottle break, or not. My friends and I have varied opinions.
I think they released a followup disc but I lost track of them. How are they now? |
| Dada | Dayv
Apr 19, 2002 10:40 PM | | Dada's last CD "Dada" was their best,lots of real good songs,then they broke up & the main songwriter is now the group "Butterfly Jones", which is also very good
but not as good as "Dada" |
| Dada | allears
Apr 22, 2002 12:43 AM | | Thanks, I'll give 'em a try.
Steve |
| Dada | WStan
Apr 22, 2002 2:54 PM | | Dada had three follow up disks, American Highway Flower, which starts out quite strong for about 2/3 of the disk, but loses a lot of momentum at the end; El Subliminoso, which is pretty lame and not worth bothering with (you can altogether disregard AMG's *** rating); and their last one, an s/t job, which ranks #3 out of their four albums on my list. I just don't see the s/t CD being even their second best album but several other opinions I've seen, including Dayv, like it a lot. I'll concede it never grabbed me like Puzzle did and I've only listened to it maybe half a dozen times as opposed to ten or more dozen times, so I'll have to give it another spin perhaps this evening. Even if it is better than I think, it's still not half the album that Puzzle is.
The band split up around 1999, but the bass player, Joie Calio, hung around the official fan message board on a daily basis for years claiming the band never really broke up but are just on a sabbatical and may still do so to this day (I've only visited the site three or four times). The board had this incredible troll who literally spent almost as much time bashing Calio as anyone on this board spends here. I think Calio must have some sort of masochistic personality, as he put up with dozens, probably hundreds of threads from this troll blasting him for being a pathetic, washed up, has-been loser. Sadly, by allowing the troll to continue with those posts and half-heartedly humoring him, Calio basically met the trollish descriptions.
It's a real shame that Dada lost their creative energy and folded. I saw them on Thanksgiving Day 1994 and it was hands down the best all around concert I've ever seen out of 250+ concerts (Dave Hole was more impressive musically, but lacked what these guys have from the singing and songwriting standpoint - that's just a reflection on Hole's genius, as the Dada boys play second fiddle to practically no one as musicians). At that point, they had only the songs from the first two albums and even the weak ones on American Highway Flower still sounded extremely strong live. If you like spicy foods and have ever had a meal that had the perfect blend of sweet, sour, salty and spicy, that was how this concert was, with a perfect mixture of hard edged guitars and sweet harmonies. Every note, every lyric was more exciting than the studio version yet just as precise - it was just brilliant. |
| Thanks guys... | jack70
Apr 23, 2002 5:53 AM | | Thanks for the background and updates on Dada. I've liked them since the first cut off of <i>Puzzle</i> ("Doreeena") back in the early 90's, but they haven't always been consistent. WStan... your live comments make me wish I'd been able to see em live. BTW, I thought El Subliminoso had some really good cuts on it... in fact maybe more than their other releases... and that's all I look for -- a few cuts that I really enjoy.
PS: I've got a few cross-band sounds on one of my pages for those that are curious/interested in such things (mp3's). Be my guest, have a look (Dada's way down the page):
http://timemasheen.tripod.com/m/mp3.html |
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