|  It's Tuesday again already! | Chip_B Aug 13, 2002 3:55 AM | | Very light listening week for me...not much time to cram tunes into an 90+ hour work week.
Blues Deluxe 16/17/18 - My most recent comps; all three feature a lot of acts I haven't used previously in the series: Mike Morgan and the Crawl, Popa Chubby, Carolyn Wonderland and the Imperial Monkeys--lots of others. I'm pleased with the way they turned out. The Carolyn Wonderland tune "It Ain't Me, Dammit" is killer.
This Rocks! 2 and 3 - As I was telling WStan in a recent email, this stuff stimulates a lot of good feelings by conjuring great memories.
DLD's retro comps (1970) - only listened to part of the first one, but LOVE what I've heard. Superb tracklists on both! The inclusion of 'Jewel-Eyed Judy' alone cements Mr D-Nasty's exalted position as one of the premier comp meisters on this board.
That's about it.
-Chip |
|  Weekly Tunes | Audio Girl Aug 13, 2002 4:29 AM | | On CD:
1. Bruce Springsteen -- The Rising
2. Trespassers William -- Anchor
3. Brooks & Dunn -- Steers & Stripes (not even a guilty pleasure...didn't like much, if at all)
4. John Mellencamp -- Rough Harvest
5. Yo La Tengo -- And then nothing turned itself inside-out (This CD was mastered so poorly that its hard for me to listen to more than once but I'll give it another try)
6. Noelle Hampton -- Under These Skies (this one is really growing on me; like I said before a cross between Lucinda & Kasey Chambers)
7. Dave Matthews Band -- Busted Stuff -- this one is not growing on me yet and may soon find itself for sell at www.half.com.
On vinyl:
1. For Duke -- Bill Berry & His Ellington Allstars
2. Stevie Wonder -- Musiquarium
Comps:
DLD's Retro Comp -- just love this one!
Primarily listened to "The Rising". The lyrics are a tender reflection from many perspectives of what occurred on 9/11/02.
Mary |
|  Yo La Tengo mastered poorly? | dbi Aug 13, 2002 7:27 AM | | I always thought it sounded great. I have both the CD and vinyl and no complaints about either. Very open and airy. Am I living in a rock and roll fantasy world?
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|  My copy is :-) | Audio Girl Aug 13, 2002 2:28 PM | | Yes, my copy is congested and very hard to listen to. At least let me put it this way, it is not on the same wavelength sonically as the Springsteen, Trespassers William, Mellencamp, Hampton & Matthews cds. Purchased all at the same time.
I'll try it again tonight and report back.
I guarantee it's not the cd player. ;-)
MH
P.S. Guess what I found in my mailbox today? Many thanks, dbi!!!! |
|  Different strokes for ... | dbi Aug 14, 2002 9:38 AM | | how's that go again?
Hey Mary. Glad you got the package OK. I really like the Yo La Tengo recordings but, as with all things audio, it's very subjective. Most modern recordings tend to rub me the wrong way with way too much compression and boosted frequency extremes (although the extremes are usually not very extreme at all :-)). But I don't have any of the recordings you list so don't take that as a comment against them or your taste in sound reproduction :-) The YLT recording sounds very natural to me and seems to image very deeply on my system. It is admittedly a very subdued sound without much sparkle, but I find it very relaxing. I've found myself on the wrong side of the "good recording vs. bad recording" discussions before here so this latest one doesn't come as too big a shock to me :-) |
|  what's there vs. what's in the artists head.. | Masonjar Aug 14, 2002 11:06 AM | | sometimes what the artist wants to create isn't exactly what someone else <i>thinks</i> it should sound like..
I guess in my view.. critiquing the sound quality of a Yo La Tengo recording isn't all that much different than criticizing the music.. to me, esp with many "independent" bands, the <i>sound</i> of the band is very closely tied to the musical message they are trying to deliver.. see My Bloody Valentine's LOVELESS for example.. a freakishly claustrophic and even annoying (at times) sounding recording, but the whole deal.. in my opinion.. brilliant.
I can listen to some Springsteen or Clapton or someone like Jewel (hehe) and think, wow, NICE recording! but.. then I start falling asleep because the music just doesn't interest me..
I took classes with Telarc's Jack Renner (I was an aspiring recording engineer...), and I remember the "pure" sound he used to strive for.. I remember listening to playbacks of a chamber orchestra we were recording on this insanely expensive equipment.. ADS speakers, Threshold power amps.. crazy stuff.. it was like they were there in the room.
Yet I would go over to the radio station and play this music on my radio show that had nothing to do with faithful reproduction and more about creating intresting sonic textures regardless of fidelity or lack thereof. It was an interesting time.. As far as being a real world recording engineer? I think I had (and still do) the ears for it, just not the patience and the ambition..
sh*t, I need to get back to work...
-jar
(what was my point again??..lol) |
|  Nah...I am talking about a REALLY bad recording... | Audio Girl Aug 14, 2002 6:37 PM | | lots of compression and boosted frequency as you mention. I am gonna take this one back and exchange it for another and see if it makes a difference. I played it for the first time, in my car also, and it sounded like crap as most auto fi's do -- so I'm gonna aim for something better, particularly on my home fi.
Don't forget that us bunnies have better ears than ye Cave men, right Snow Buns?
MH |
|  You can compare it to the song on Sparkle I | dbi Aug 14, 2002 8:21 PM | | I used Tears Are In Your Eyes (track 8) on the Sparkle I comp you have. I bought the CD right when it came out a couple years ago so if your new one sounds like my old one then you may as well try to exchange it for something else cause I don't think you're gonna get a better sounding one :-)
If those "better" bunny ears make good music sound like crap, well, I'll keep my set of cave man ears :-) |
|  Ahhhhhhhhhh, stooooop it..... | Audio Girl Aug 14, 2002 8:27 PM | | it doesn't sound too great, dear....no matter what cha think :-)
hang in there tho cause we'll agree 1 of these days,
MH |
|  Early Fela | J Aug 13, 2002 5:24 AM | | I've managed to get my hands on nearly all of the recent MCA reissues of all of Fela Kuti's albums & haven't really listened to any of them. I like the Afrobeat stuff, but it's not something I can listen to for hours on end. But I threw on the one that has the 1969 L.A. sessions & the first half of it has recently unearthed & previously unreleased recordings of the band Fela was in in the mid-1960s, Koola Lobitos. OUTSTANDING! WOW! I'm not really a fan of Latin jazz, but quite a bit of it could be described that way, some of it's funky, some of it in a real James Brown sort of way. It has a real primitive sort of low-fi sound that reminds me of my Desmond Dekker CD. HIGHLY recommended.
I got DLD's 1970 comp but I am moving & it's just going to have to wait. Aw, the hell with that, I'll throw it on today sometime. Someone gave me a copy of the Old 97s Satellite Rides & I've played it a couple of times. Real good so far. Another friend allowed me to copy the four songs from the upcoming Beck release he played me a few weeks ago. I like that a lot, too, very Mutations-like. One song is a rewrite of some of the stuff on Serge Gainsbourg's Melody Nelson. Hey, nobody ever accused Beck of being the most original guy in the world, but I like the result, and maybe more people will discover Serge and I don't think that's a bad thing at all.
I'm in the process of packing up my collection so I'm sticking with some comps that I've made for myself, a lot of punk rock--Replacements, Dickies, Ramones, etc. I don't actually listen to all this stuff as much as one might think, or as much as I used to, but it's great stuff to have on when you need yr music to motivate you when it comes to physical work. The louder & faster the better. |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | nobody Aug 13, 2002 5:41 AM | | Well, this week is a special all vinyl, all brought to you by way of a purchasing spree at the Yech family estate...
Otis Spahnn - The Blues Never Die
Chicago style blues. If you like Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon and the like, this is right up your alley. Good stuff.
Charles Mingus - Blues & Roots
Only my second exposure to Mingus, and highly enjoyable. I can't say I like it more than Ah Um, but it's not far off, if a little more traditional.
Link Wray - Live at the Paridiso
Scortching live set from 1979 recorded in Amsterdam. Good recording and performance. The song selection leans a bit more toward covers rather than his original guitar instrumentals, but stilll a solid record.
Television - Adventure
I've always been so-so about these guys, and this LP hasn't changed anything. Nice, but nothing I'm gonna get too excited about. Reminds me of XTC and other angular pop-rock. Solid, but unspectacular to me.
Sweet Honey in the Rock - Live at Carnagie Hall
2 LP set of live acapella singing by a wonderful group. Most selections are spiritual, making this the perfect thing for skipping church on Sunday morning. Excellent sound as well.
Kenney Burrell - Blues: The Common Ground
Has some very nice highlights with excellent jazz blues guitar. At times a little dated, but enough top spots to make up for it. I can see why people really go for the Verve mono LPs; the sound is excellent.
Fendermen - Mule Skinner Blues
Great early 60 rockabilly guitar madness. Fun, fun, fun...
Blasters - Self-titled
Its about time I got this on vinyl. Very good roots rock with the Alvin brothers.
Reverend Horton Heat - Smoke 'em if you got 'em
On 10" vinyl. All my Reverend has been on CD up until this one. Now, I want to replace it all with vinyl. Good songs, good sound, a personal favorite.
Van Morrison - Irish Heartbeat
Irish toons by Van the man. If you like the Pogues and all that, you can get your traditional Irish music fix here.
Well, I know I'm forgetting a couple. There was one retro rockabilly LP, the name of which I forget that was very nice, well-done covers of old, not-so-well-known gems, and I'm pretty sure there was one more that is completely slipping my mind. Anyway, a worthwhile trip up north, and I made it out alive.
I had also just got a package in the mail with some more goodies the day before I raided Yech's stuff, but I'll save those for another time. If anybody else is in Michigan, I recommend going and grabbing what's left. There's still some nice stuff, and it's a good chance to hear a really nice stereo setup while you're looking. Besides, you may get a taste of some excellent beer if you're lucky. |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | Stone Aug 13, 2002 5:45 AM | | Vinyl:
The Dead C - White House
Blue In Heaven - All the God's Men
Wire - A Bell Is a Cup Until It Is Struck
CD:
Interpol - s/t EP
Spoon - Love Ways EP
Rockers Soundtrack
The Gerbils - Are You Sleepy
The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
AC/DC - High Voltage
Portishead - Dummy
Bob Dylan - Blood On the Tracks
Blur - Parklife
Stone |
|  Stone, I'm amazed... | Chip_B Aug 13, 2002 6:17 AM | | I don't often find a lot of common ground (other than the Gurus--did you like the "Like Wow" comps, btw?) in our respective collections, but I've got FOUR of the albums you mention (Blur, Dylan, AC/DC, and Wire). I've listened to the Blur, AC/DC, and Wire CDs within the last 3-4 months, but it's been too long since I played my vinyl copy of Blood on the Tracks. I really gotta get a new turntable.
Is High Voltage the recently released remastered version? I picked mine up at Wally World a couple of months ago.
-Chip |
|  the remastered <i>Let There Be Rock</i> is great! | Masonjar Aug 13, 2002 6:59 AM | | eventually I want them all.. but you know, part of me just doesn't want to spend money on albums I've already spent money on.. I've had various vinyl, cd and cassette versions of just about all the pre-<i>Flick of the Switch</i> albums, but I was really impressed with the remastering job on the one I got.. probably <i>Powerage</i> will be next, though I gotta admit, my vinyl copy still has an awesome bite to it.. my vinyl copies of <i>Dirty Deeds</i>, <i>Back in Black</i>, <i>Highway to Hell</i> and <i>For Those About to Rock</i> are all in pretty bad shape :-) However, I have the Australian import vinyl copy of <i>TNT</i> (basically the same as <i>High Voltage</i> with a few tracks different) I picked up way way back that's still in pretty decent shape.. Have any of you vinyl people found that some pressings hold up over time better than others? I swear, I have some LP's that I haven't listened to more than a few dozen times that sound like crap.. weird.
-jar |
|  Blood on the Tracks | Mr MidFi Aug 13, 2002 7:18 AM | | My favorite Dylan. Had it on cassette (recorded from vinyl) for many years...finally replaced it 2 weeks ago for $7.99 at Borders. Gadzooks, I love that disc! |
|  <i>people see me all the time and they just can't remember how to act</i> | Stone Aug 13, 2002 7:25 AM | | <i>Their minds are filled with big ideas, images and distorted facts</i>
Of the 6 or 7 Dylan albums I have, I'm beginning to think <i>Blood on the Tracks</i> may be my favorite (of course that is bound to change as early as tomorrow).
To be honest, I'm not sure if that AC/DC CD is the remastered version or not. I saw it for $8 at the grocery store so I picked it up along with Van Halen's first album (which I know is the remastered version).
<i>Parklife</i> is the only Blur album I have so far, and man is it good. I'll definitely be picking up more of their stuff soon.
My music listening is often dictated by my mood, or what I recently picked up. For some reason last night I thought of that Wire album so I sat down and listened to it. Really an underrated album, IMO, but I see that AMG gives it 4 1/2 stars.
I really like that Gurus comp. I had nearly all of it, but you guys did a really nice job of putting that all together.
Stone |
|  Ditto 'Blood on the Tracks' | Chip_B Aug 13, 2002 8:09 AM | | For years I felt rather ambiguous about Dylan, but hearing Blood on the Tracks, and later Slow Train Coming, changed that. Blood on the Tracks--because of 'Tangled Up in Blue', 'You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go', 'Simple Twist of Fate' and the awesome 'Shelter from the Storm'--is very much my favorite Dylan LP.
I also got the remastered versions of 'Back in Black' and 'Highway to Hell' at Wally World--those are my two favorite AC/DC albums. I don't replace all that much vinyl with digital, but I thought these were worth it (and cheap!).
'Parklife' is also my only Blur album and while I like parts of it (especially the title cut), it hasn't inspired me to seek any more of their music.
-Chip |
|  Still waiting for Interpol comments ... I'l trade you for some words about Idlewild ... | dbi Aug 13, 2002 9:44 AM | | and what about that Spoon EP? Does it have stuff from the upcoming album and is it great?
I got the new Idlewild <i>The Remote Part</i> album a couple weeks ago after ordering it from CDWOW in the UK as you may recall. It's not scheduled for release here until next year from my understanding. Anyway, very good album. Lots of the same quasi-intelligent pop-punk as on 100 Broken Widows album but with a much stronger nod to the Buckley/Radiohead/Coldplay/Elbow/Six By Seven wing of modern melodic and epic guitar and strings britpop in at least three or four songs. Very nice they are too. I guess a couple of them have been released as singles in the UK and went very high on the charts, at least top 5. Quite a short album too. Still, it leaves me wanting just a little bit more, somewhat like the last one. Many of the songs tend to run together because they just aren't distinctive enough. I think it's worth it though for the standouts.
Have you heard anything about the new Primal Scream album or are you even a fan? |
|  Looks like I got the Idlewild words for free . . . | Stone Aug 13, 2002 9:57 AM | | But I'll tell you about Interpol anyway. :-)
The three-song Interpol EP is very early 80s sounding. It reminds me somewhat of early Chameleons. I've read comparisons between the lead singer's voice and Ian Curtis', but I only really hear it in a few spots. I really like the EP a lot, but if you're looking for something original, this really isn't it - not that it sounds like a direct copy of anything, it just isn't groundbreaking. However, I keep reaching for it - good stuff. I probably wouldn't give it a 9.3 (like the reviewer at Pitchfork), but definitely in the low to mid 8s. I'm looking forward to the full length.
I believe Spoon has a new EP, but the one I got (<i>Love Ways</i>) actually came out before <i>Girls Can Tell</i>. It's alright and has a couple catchy tunes, but doesn't stand up to <i>Girls Can Tell</i>, IMO.
I'm not a big Primal Scream fan. I have <i>Screamadelica</i> and have never really been able to get into it.
Stone |
|  Lot of early 80s in the new Idlewild too | dbi Aug 13, 2002 10:06 AM | | One of the things that struck me most right out the gate was how much early U2 and Big Country are a part of their sound now. Sure, it was always there in the background, but now it is much more out front. The opening track could almost be from the first U2 or Big Country album and the "Scottish sound" is a much bigger part of this album. The whole opening block of 5 songs is pretty strong before it loses a bit of personality although it does recover very nicely in the end with the title track combined with an emotional voiceover called Scottish Fiction. Nice ending. |
|  Interpol | cc Aug 13, 2002 7:05 PM | | I saw these guys open for Mogwai a couple of years ago... a strange pairing. I definitely heard the Joy Division influence at the show but I haven't heard the EP. I'm really enjoying the early 80s elements in indie music nowadays (as in your Drainage comp), but I wonder how we'll feel when bands start dropping in hair metal references without kidding. Oh wait, Trans Am already does that. And the Champs. |
|  Some of this, some of that: | Dave_G Aug 13, 2002 6:37 AM | | Buggles - both of their 2 cd's. Good pop synth.
Stranglers - About Time - excellent "rock" from this band
Drywall - this is one weird ass cd. Of course, with Stan Ridgway, what do you expect?
Progessive Gems Vol. 3 from Demetrio
Gary Numan - BBC live - excellent stuff on this cd
Rush - Moving Pictures
I also listened to a 2 lp (!) set I have by the Cult - pretty good!
Aerosmith - Rock in a Hard Place
I've also been watching the lord of the rings dvd off and on, and watching the yessymphonic dvd and the new Ozzy dvd.
Peace.
Dave |
|  road trip!! | Rae Aug 13, 2002 6:43 AM | | Well, I rode down to Madison this weekend with stupidestboy to help him move into his new place, and we probably spent at least 10 hours in the car. Let's see if I can remember everything we listened to...
* 12<i>RODS</i> - <i>Gay?</i> EP
* Pretty Girls Make Graves - <i>Good Health</i>
* Ramones - s/t
* Aesop Rock - <i>Float</i>
* Wicketran/Bozart split
* The Flaming Lips - <i>Hit to Death in the Future Head</i>
* Beck - <i>Mutations</i>
* Ted Leo & the Pharmacists - <i>The Tyranny of Distance</i>
* The Dismemberment Plan - <i>Emergency & I</i>
* Galaxie 500 - <i>On Fire</i>
* The Microphones - <i>Song Islands</i>
* Eric Dolphy - <i>Out to Lunch</i>
* a Le Tigre mix
* Bruce Springsteen - <i>Nebraska</i>
* love-cars - <i>Chump Lessons</i>
* Yo La Tengo - <i>And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out</i>
also a couple of miscellaneous mixes, and I know there were at least a few other albums...
~Rae |
|  Beard's Neal Morse Solo CD - Review | BarryL Aug 13, 2002 6:43 AM | | I've been listening to the second solo CD from Spock's Beard's Neal Morse, titled "It's Not Too Late."
This is more of a pop album than a prog album, from Morse and D'Virgilio with session musicians added where needed. These are songs written by Morse from 1983 to 2001, and have a softer approach than the first solo album and the Beard albums in general.
It didn't make much of an impact on first listen, but on repeated listenings, this is a very fine album. There is some amazing drumming by D'Virgilio, particularly on The Wind And The Rain, but also throughout. The vocals are pretty good - there's a lot less "yelling" and a lot more sensitive-type singing.
One outstanding track is Leah, which, if you have children, you will find very touching.
I've been down on Morse lately, but this has raised my perspective. I think he is maturing into a fine musician, and hopefully the next Beard effort will be an improvement on the last, with overly lengthy songs with stream-of-consciosness vocals. There is much more focus on these shorter tunes. |
|  Beard's Neal Morse Solo CD - Review | Dave_G Aug 13, 2002 6:59 AM | | Thanks for the review, Barry.
I would love to see Spocks Beard do a cd where they have learned what "edit" means.
Kind regards,
Dave |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | 2 channel Aug 13, 2002 7:30 AM | | Super hectic week already...and it's only Tuesday! Just dropped in for some peace of mind.
Anyaway, heres what I'm using to take the edge off:
Dave Mattews bootleg of 7/21/02 concert
Bela Fleck Live at the Quick
Jack Johnson Brushfire fairytales (you guys should all buy this one it's awesome!)
Norah Jones Come Away With Me
David Johansen and the Harry Smiths
Christy Baron Steppin
Eric Johnson Alien Love Child |
|  Tuesday in the Twilight Zone | dbi Aug 13, 2002 7:57 AM | | |
|  I knew someday you'd finally start listening to <i>good</i> stuff!! (nt) | Stone Aug 13, 2002 7:59 AM | | |
|  "Those aren't pillows!" | Chip_B Aug 13, 2002 8:12 AM | | ...and you must've borrowed these from your baby sister, right? [;o)
-Chip |
|  What a great movie :-) | dbi Aug 14, 2002 7:38 AM | | I couldn't remember where that line was from so had to look it up. Love that movie! What an inspired pairing :-) Did Steve Martin and John Candy make any other movies together before he died? |
|  What a great movie :-) | Chip_B Aug 14, 2002 8:22 AM | | Not that I know of...Candy was usually better at supporting roles than leads. He was great as Tom Hanks' brother in 'Splash' and as Bill Murray's foil in 'Stripes'. His only starring role that clicked fairly well (IMHO) was 'Uncle Buck'. He was an incredibly funny guy though.
Glad you caught the reference. In a weird way, it seemed appropriate: sort of "esoteric indie maven gets caught with mainstream pablum. He <i>must've</i> been asleep when it happened." [:o)
-Chip |
|  Hahahahah! | Snowbunny Aug 13, 2002 8:49 AM | | Never mind the requested recommendations, Davey! This did the trick! :-)))
How'd you <i>do</i> that!
Snowbuns |
|  Don't laugh too hard, Corona Girl .... | dbi Aug 13, 2002 11:05 AM | | cause you just might be looking at the tracklist of your next compus maximus (how did Tricky Ricky sneak into the conversation?). Hey, speaking of comps that roolz, are you gonna do some cute artwork for the Davey & Snowie 1997 production? Who ya gonna send a copy to? Should we fill it to the max with choice tunes or leave them begging for more? Is Lisa Germano just the cutest thing you've ever seen? :-) |
|  Careful, Sugarbreath... | Snowbunny Aug 13, 2002 12:18 PM | | Don't forget the discs are gonna pass through <i>my</i> magic fingers before distro.
Lisa Germano the cutest thing I've ever seen? Hmmm... my anwer would have to be NO! ;-)
Sublime Susie
<i>Un-break my heart
Say you'll me again
Undo this hurt you caused
When you walked out the door
And walked out of my life
Un-cry these tears
I cried so many nights
Un-break my heart
My heart</i>
Betcha can't wait to see the final tracklist, eh? Make sure you don't finalize the CD, okay, Davey? |
|  Geek the Girl not even a <i>little</i> cute? | dbi Aug 13, 2002 1:14 PM | | It's a tough crowd around here. Sure, she's not as cute as our lovely Sugarbunny, but how can you say so emphatically, NO?
<img src="http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/lisagermano.jpg">
And I thought you were just putting me on about Toni Braxton :-) |
|  Desperately Seeking New Collaborator for 1997 Comp :-) | Snowbunny Aug 13, 2002 11:02 PM | | Must like long walks under the stars, top 40 music, long, snowy winters and natural blondes. Oh, and, aficianados of bowed-saw music, need not apply. ;-)
You always have to get your way, Dave! Okay, I'll give in on the Toni Braxton song, but I'm holding out for Mmmbop! Its been touted as a masterpiece, many times, on <i>this</i> very board!
And, if pressed, I'll have to concede that Lisa is <i>kinda</i> cute. But I haven't heard her sing yet. Is the band called OP8?
You do <i>like</i> them brunettes, dontcha Sweetie? :-)
<i>I hear the clock, it's 6am
I feel so far away from where I've been
Got my eggs, and my pancakes too
Got my maple syrup, everything but you
I break the yolks and make a smiley face
I kinda like it in my brand new place
I wipe the spots off of the mirror
Don't leave the keys in the door
Never put wet towels on the floor anymore</i>
C'mon Davey! How can you resist those haunting lyrics? :-)
Snowbuns |
|  Me! Me! Me! Please pick me! | Desperate Guy Aug 14, 2002 7:56 AM | | Jewel is a Goddess! Those words make me melt into my chair. I love long walks and have a notebook computer I can take anywhere so let's set up a meeting this week to work on the comp! I have lots of CDs we can use including most of the best sellers and also the Billboard and Grammy best songs of the year collections.
What's a bowed saw and how do you make those cute italics? OP8? Weird!
DG |
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|  Mmmm... you sound dreamy, Mr. Desperado Guy | Snowbunny Aug 14, 2002 9:45 AM | | but now that I know that that Rae guy bakes cookies, does laundry, <i>and</i> has great taste in music, I think I'm going to ask him to be my new collaborator. I think there's a <i>lot</i> I could teach him. ;-)
Good luck in finding your musical mate, DG! I hear the internet is a <i>great</i> way to meet girls!
Snowbunny |
|  Desperado sounds like a big time loser to me | dbi Aug 14, 2002 10:34 AM | | Just my impression. Plenty of fish in the sea to fry? I always get those two sayings mixed up but during my latest round of room painting I seem to have misplaced my Funk & Wagnalls New World Book of Cliches so I'll have to leave it like that.
Now Rae <i>would</i> make a good collaborator, but he's young enough to be your ... er...um...well, nevermind. Let's just say that in 1997 he was still getting picked on by the big seniors in high school.
OP8 = John Convertino, Joey Burns and Howe Gelb (aka Giant Sand) |
|  Gimme a break | Audio Girl Aug 14, 2002 6:56 PM | | we could all look like that if we tanned every day & had some major surgery!
Sheesh, typical man... |
|  Hey! | DustyChalk Aug 15, 2002 8:00 PM | | Don't be dissing my (geek the) girl, Lisa! Somehow I doubt those looks are the results of surgery, she's just not that kind of girl... :p |
|  that Rippingtons live disc is simply tremendous (nt) | cc Aug 13, 2002 7:02 PM | | |
|  How'd you do that? | DustyChalk Aug 15, 2002 8:01 PM | | Did you check those out of the library? |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | WStan Aug 13, 2002 8:47 AM | | -Paul Cebar and the Milwaukeeans: That Unhinged Thing; Upstroke for the Downfolk.
-Poi Dog Pondering: Volo Volo
-Smokin' Joe Kubek: Take Your Best Shot
-Sonia Dada: s/t
-America: History (GH) my wife's disk, she couldn't even remember buying it back in college. Good stuff, the thread on this band two weeks back made me give me some thought to buying this - just glad I found it while unpacking some moving boxes.
-Blues Deluxe vol. 3. This one may overtake vol 11 as my favorite. I've got to get some Joe Bonamassa disks. Chip, which ones do you recommend?
-Ted Nugent: Double Live Gonzo. I saw in my latest Sound & Vision that Ted and his quite lovely wife have a new cookbook entitled "Kill It and Grill It) I'll try to post a photo. |
|  'A New Day Yesterday' | Chip_B Aug 13, 2002 10:12 AM | | Virtually every Bonamassa tune on a variety of my BD comps comes from 'A New Day Yesterday' (and yes, that's the Tull tune he covers). The new CD, 'So, It's Like That' just came out and I was notified a couple of days ago that CD Universe shipped it. I should have it in a day or two and I'll let you know what I think after I've had a chance to listen a few times. I'm hoping for more of the same energy.
Here's some info on what he's up to currently (touring with BB King): http://www.guitaronemag.com/newsroom.asp
I would <i>not</i> recommend the Bloodline CD however. It's an album Bonamassa did with the progeny of people like Miles Davis (son Erin), Robby Krieger (son Waylon), and Berry Oakley (son Berry Jr.). As good as Bonamassa's playing is, he can't save it. The lyrics and vocals are laughably bad.
-Chip |
|  'A New Day Yesterday' | WStan Aug 14, 2002 7:01 AM | | Thanks Chip.
I picked up a copy of A New Day Yesterday from half.com for the princely sum of $6.75 shipped. It just kills me to pay retail for CD's these days.
Will your copy of the new CD come with the DVD? The store at Joe's website (<www.jbonamassa.com>) sells the new disk for some change under $15 and they are throwing in a two hour DVD for free. I may just get that.
Have a good time on your vacation. |
|  'A New Day Yesterday' | Chip_B Aug 14, 2002 8:24 AM | | Unfortunately, I ordered it through CD Universe before I saw the deal on Joe's site. I may see if I can get a copy of the DVD separately. |
|  Yech's Pass The Afrosheen | 3-LockBox Aug 13, 2002 10:32 AM | | Got this last week. A great collection of big band style funk. Nothing too hard core. Three disc may be pushing it a bit; two discs should suffice. Any music fan should give volumes 1 or 2 a shot. |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | SEK Aug 13, 2002 10:45 AM | | Charles Mingus- "Cumbia & Jazz Fusion", "New Tijuana Moods" Billy Bang- "Vietnam: The Aftermath", "Untitled Gift", "The Jazz Doctors" Henry Threadgill- "Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket" |
|  the week in review | richmon Aug 13, 2002 11:36 AM | | Rush '2110' -very impressed by this, so I picked up ..
Rush 'A farewell to Kings' - too much Geddy Lee for me.
Tool 'Lateralus' -for my heavy moods.
Star One 'Space Metal'
La Mashera di tera -never thought I'd get into italian prog but this disc just might do it.
David Lanz & Paul Speer 'Natural states'
Rhino's Doo Wop, Vols 1 + 2 -.. 8 discs and 160 songs later, managed to cull 19 cuts for a comp. |
|  Good as place as any to review PWRPOPGUY'S 1977 | DLD Aug 13, 2002 12:48 PM | | Just got it (and DBI's) in the mail yesterday. Listened to Rick's going to work and running errands at lunch. Definitely have a good feel for most of it.
First, I'm jealous as Hell you got a year with Psycho Killer in it! That about covers the Talking Heads selection I think.
Of the first 6 songs, I think 5 of them go remarkably well together. Just doesn't seem there was a perfect fit for the CSN cut anywhere. Bros. Johnson tune was one of my favorite singles from this era. Just a fantastic pop song with a looming, dark, under tone, used to good effect in Taratino's Jackie Brown. A killer song to start the comp off with. Forgot how good Southern Girls was, a truly Powerful Power Pop song. And the Climax Blues Band tune is similar in feel to Strawberry Letter as well. (I owned that Brothers Johnson album, not a particularly great album. A friend came over and traded me Dave Edmunds' Get It for it. A good upgrade for me. He just wanted to turn me on to Edmunds)
As you can tell, this is my favorite part of the comp.
I knew there would have to be a dreaded Foreigner cut in here (Can't fault that as they were a big part of the late 70's). At least this is one that wasn't played to death (or at all) on AOR radio back then.
Utopia's Communion With the Sun? where did this come from? Pretty cool. I only own Swing to the Right and the music on this is definitely different. One listen has perked my interest.
Black Betty. A cool cut. the instrumental opening makes it sound like it gonna explode along ZZ Top lines but once the vocals kick in, its very different. Don't know how I missed this, must have been listening to too much ELO and Fleetwood Mac. Ditto Dixie Dregs and Chilliwack. I think the Chiliwack cut may turn out to be a favorite.
Kansas? nahh. I'll give em Dust In The Wind, Carry On Wayward Son and Point Of Know Return, but I think I don't like this one more than a little.
Yes, Starts out like some kind of G Harrison/Carl Perkins/Chuck Berry roof shaking rock n roll/rockabilly extravaganza then goes somewhere else. i haven't figured where "else" is yet.
A couple of fine closers in the Lane/Townsend song and the great Sheep! I'll definitely devote more attention to the Utopia song and the Yes song over the next day. Thanks a bunch Rick, for the comp and for the whole idea of these retros.
1. Strawberry Letter 23 - Brothers Johnson
2. Shadow Captain - Crosby, Stills & Nash
3. She's Not There - Santana
4. Couldn't Get It Right - Climax Blues Band
5. Psycho Killer - Talking Heads
6. Southern Girls - Cheap Trick
7. Woman Oh Woman - Foreigner
8. Communion With the Sun - Utopia
9. Be My Wife - David Bowie
10. Black Betty - Ram Jam
11. Free Fall - Dixie Dregs
12. Fly At Night - Chilliwack
13. Going For the One - Yes
14. Nobody's Home - Kansas
15. Heart to Hang On To - Pete Townshend/Ronnie Lane
16. Sheep - Pink Floyd |
|  No, thank <i>you</i>! | PwrPopGuy Aug 13, 2002 1:05 PM | | ...for a really complimentary review. This thing was a lot of fun to put together and I pay a LOT of attention to how a comp flows from one song to the next, so I'm glad it seems to work from time-to-time. As for CSN, I could have gone with "Dark Star" or another track from that very fine album but "Shadow Captain" sort of has the essence of the whole album in one song, IMO. Glad you're turned on to the Utopia track- it was on a cut-out compilation I picked up from Best Buy a few years ago, and the track just happened to be from 1977. I particularly like the Chilliwack track myself- the singer has a similar vocal range as David Gates (of Bread fame) on the soft verses. It's one of those songs that once you get in your head, it takes a while to get out. Now to get started on the BAD comp. Yuch! I hope those stinkers don't crash my hard drive! BTW, I looked up that Klaus Nomi character on All Music, what a strange-looking bird he was. |
|  Prog Metal all day loooooooooooong..... | Demetrio Aug 13, 2002 1:13 PM | | Still recovering from a surgery I did 14 days ago, and getting all this free time to work on three Prog Metal comps, I have been listening a lot to this stuff lately:
PAYNES GRAY Kadath Decoded
ARCTURUS The Sham Mirrors
WITHOUT FACE Deep Inside
SYMPHONY X V: The New Mythology Suite
MAUDLIN OF THE WELL My Fruit PsychoBells
MAUDLIN OF THE WELL Bath
MAUDLIN OF THE WELL Leaving Your Body Map
PAIN OF SALVATION - Entropia
PAIN OF SALVATION Remedy Lane
PAIN OF SALVATION - The Perfect Element
SLEEPLESS Winds Blow Higher
SUPERIOR Behind
BEYOND TWILIGHT The Devils Hall of Fame
AFTER FOREVER Decipher
LACRIMOSA Elodia
LACRIMOSA - Fassade
TIAMAT - Wildhoney/Gaia
THRESHOLD Wounded Land
THRESHOLD - Extinct Instinct
THRESHOLD - Hypothetical
MADSWORD The Global Village
EVERON Venus
EVERON - Fantasma
TILES Presents of Mind
ANGRA Holy Land
DREAMS OF SANITY The Game
DREAMS OF SANITY - Komodia
DREAMS OF SANITY - Masquerade
EDENBRIDGE Sunrise in Eden
CHALICE Chronicles of Dysphoria
SINPHONIA When the Tide Breaks
MINDS EYE Into the Unknown
ENCHANT A Blueprint of the World
ART REBELLION Embrace the Future
SUNBLAZE Illuminating Heights
DUNWICH Eternal Eclipse of Frost
SALEM HILL The Robbery of Murder
ARENA Immortal
Demetrio. |
|  Bunny tunes | Slosh Aug 13, 2002 1:44 PM | | Snowie was kind enough to send me:
-Grandaddy <i>The Sophtware Slump</i>
-Eleni Mandeil <i>Wishbone</i>
-Hawksley Workman <i>(last night we were) The Delicious Wolves</i>
All three are good but I don't know any of them that well yet, but I will :-)
Got my first true taste of DVD-Audio with Queen's <i>A Night At The Opera</i>. I don't have a DVD-A player but this disc has a 96/24 PCM stereo track and a DTS 96/24 5.1 track. It sounds good, but not better than LP or well-mastered CD. Maybe the original master-tape just isn't all that great.
The same old same old:
The Fvcking Champs <i>IV</i>
Sublime
Sublime <i>40 oz. To Freedom</i>
Built To Spill <i>There's Nothing Wrong With Love</i>
Joe Walsh <i>You Bought It, You Name It</i>
Ugly Casanova <i>Sharpen Your Teeth</i>
The Dismemberment Plan <i>Emergency & I</i>
Porno For Pyros
At The Drive-In <i>in/CASINO/OUT</i>
Chisel <i>8 A.M. All Day</i>
Days Of The New (<i>"II"</i>)
Dinosaur Jr. <i>Where You Been</i>
Mad Season <i>Above</i>
Temple Of The Dog
For Love Not Lisa <i>Information Superdriveway</i>
Clinic <i>Internal Wrangler</i>
...among others :-)
Oh, and RPM's Kind Of Bland and Compus Chillus Maximus (nice job, Rick :-)) |
|  re: It's Tuesday again already! | Pat D Aug 13, 2002 6:20 PM | | Rachmaninoff, Isle of the Dead. Reiner, Chicago SO. Aslo with Jascha Horenstein and the Royal Philharmonic Orch.
Rachmaninoff, Piano Concerto no. 2. Earl Wild, Piano, with Jascha Horenstein and the Royal Philharmonic.
Beethoven, Symphony no. 6. Suitner, Berliner Staatskapelle.
Mozart, Six Quartets dedicated to Haydn. Melos Quartet.
Sibelius, Symphony no. 2. Sir John Barbirolli, Royal Philharmonic.
Sibelius, Symphony no. 5. Maazel, Vienna Philharmonic. |
|  Well, here goes... | Ed TBPO Aug 13, 2002 6:26 PM | | Kenso - Fabulis Mirabilibus De Bombycosi Scriptis
Alva Star - Alligators in the Lobby
The Maggies - Robot Stories
Ultimate Fakebook - Open Up and Say Awesome
Copperpot - Tired of Waiting
The Nines - Wonderworld of Colorful
The General Store - Local Honey
Schicke Fuhrs Frohling - Symphonic Pictures
Supertramp - Breakfast in America
Yes - Konocti (Bootleg off current tour)
Rush - Our Ceiling Unlimited (boot off current tour)
U2 - Salome
Bayprog compilation
Thelonious Monk - disc from a compilation
Porcupine Tree - Polish Sun (bootleg)
Tool - Aenima
np: Chamber Strings |
|  hold the phone! | Rae Aug 14, 2002 9:11 AM | | You're listening to Alva Star?? You, sir, are a man of discerning tastes!
Have you heard any of Darren Jackson's other bands like Kid Dakota or Camaro? Kid Dakota especially is one of my very favs among current locals (although I have yet to see him in concert, grrr...).
~Rae |
|  The improbable role of Alva Star | Ed TBPO Aug 14, 2002 5:56 PM | | Heheh.. I don't think I've ever been referred to as "discerning " before.
Actually, I had no idea who was in the band, and not being from that area (Minneapolis), I wouldn't have found out about them if not for the internet. I was part of a group on Audiogalaxy, and every so often someone would shoot out an mp3 of some band that maybe the lot of us haven't heard. One of them was Alva Star, off their cd, and I loved the song. But as it is I have a long list of cd's to get and not alot of money to go with it. Fast forward a bit, and someone had finally posted on another board that The Nines "Wonderful of Colorful" was reprinted and for sale. One of the places is cdbaby.com, so I went there. I had picked up their other album "Properties of Sound" there earlier, so I had used them before. Anyway, I saw "Wonderful" and grabbed that. Not being a person who just wants to pick up one cd with shipping fees and all, I decided to get a couple of others. So I flipped through their catalog in the same genre as the Nines, and voila, there was Alva Star. They had samples you could listen to, and I was hooked.. it included the mp3 song, "Adore" that I had earlier. I also did the same thing with The Maggies "Robot Stories" and got the 3 cd's. Strangely enough, I listen to the Alva Star and The Maggies cd's more than the Nines one. Kinda proves that downloads off sites do work for sales. Some time I'll go back to cdbaby and joyfully find more treasures to go through. I also recommend the Maggies album, if you haven't gotten that jist.
Woo... getting ready to see the Flashing Lights tomorrow.
np: mp3's from Alva Star's site. |
|  Thnx for the kind words Chip | DLD Aug 13, 2002 7:48 PM | | When you get the chance after some more listening, lemme know what ya think. And yea, I had forgotten about that Jewel Eyed Judy track til I re-listened to Kiln House after a ten (or more) year absence. I'[ve just oprfered a bunch of old Fleetwood Mac on CD to supplement my well played vinyl collection from way back then.
Hope the exercize is finished/near finished. David |
|  Yep....it's finally dead | Chip_B Aug 14, 2002 4:17 AM | | I finished the exercise with a flourish: I was a night watch of one last Friday/Saturday (everyone else was given the night off and I volunteered to be the 'stuckee'). I stayed until the 4-star gave his 'endex' speech, which he managed to stretch into an excruciatingly long instrument of torture. He was only a few feet away from me and I thought of pelting him with spit wads until he stopped talking. I decided he might not find this action nearly as humorous as <i>I</i> obviously would and I refrained. All told, it was a 17-hour shift (from 7:30PM Friday through 12:30PM Saturday) and I was one whipped puppy when I finally walked out the door. Thank God it's over and I can finally find time to listen to music again!
I'll definitely get back to you with a review of the comps. I'm familiar with most of the tunes and I applaud your inspired choices. The combinations are interesting (in a very good way) and I think that's what tends to make your comps so much fun. I still like the 'back of the closet' comp you sent me best; amazing that you seem to consider it just a throw-together, spur of the moment collection. It's one of my favorite comps, including the ones I've bought in stores.
I'm off to Florida in the early morning...can't wait to be able to just kick back and enjoy the down time.
-Chip |
|  I got scalded by "Chicken Soup for the Soul" | DustyChalk Aug 15, 2002 8:37 PM | | <IMG SRC="http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/20020815ca.jpg"></IMG> <IMG SRC="http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/20020815aa.jpg"></IMG> Also listened to a couple of magazine-related samplers, most notably "Throat Culture" (all cookie-monster-vocal bands). LOTW? Easy: Porcupine Tree sampler (not shown). |
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