|   ELP-Brain Salad Surgery DVD-A Question/Complaint | dudeymon2
Mar 3, 2003 11:32 AM | | I recently bought this DVD-A disc after reading raves about it in this and other forums.
I want to listen to the stereo 2-channel hi-res mix of the DVD. I can not, and it's frustrating me a little. The packaging clearly says a stereo mix is available. My system can not playback multichannel DVD-A due to the lack analog multichannel inputs on my processor.
I can get to the dolby-digital surround mix, but I'm losing all of the hi-res enhancement in this lower quality format.
I've tried to contact Rhino, but they have not responded to my emails.
I'm new to the DVD-A medium, so I may not be doing something right.
Anybody out there have this DVD-A and know how to get to the 2-ch track.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks. |
| No hi-res 2 channel track | DustyChalk
Mar 3, 2003 12:31 PM | | I believe you have to "mix down" the hi-res multi-channel track to get hi-res 2 channel. You have to do it in your DVD-A player. I know that's a hack, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that many people were disappointed with that fact, as am I.
I don't remember anyone on this board raving about it, but I may not have been paying attention. |
| No hi-res 2 channel track | dudeymon2
Mar 3, 2003 1:36 PM | | Yeah, I got similar feedback from another contact as well. Those folks at Warner need to do a better job of packaging and stop advertising capabilities that aren't there. The dvdaudiopreview web site for Warner still states the disc has a 2-channel track, and the disc packaging clearly states it as well. Those bums.
My DVD-A player will mix down the 5.1 to 2 channel, but the results are crummy, IMHO.
Oh well, I'll just have to wait until I upgrade my surround processor.
Thanks. |
| Return it... | DustyChalk
Mar 3, 2003 1:55 PM | | ...as far as I'm concerned, that's false advertising. Maybe there is a two-channel track, but it isn't high-res? Is that possible? Other than that, it's just faulty. The mixdown is a function of (a) yes, your surround processor, but also (b) the mixdown parameters in the DVD-A. Why didn't they just include a high-res two-channel track? What about the headphone listeners -- how many ears do they think people have?
I never bought it for exactly that reason. That and the watermarking fiasco killed DVD-A for me.
Hey, did you know Blue Oyster Cult's Agents of Fortune came out on SACD? I think I explicitly asked for that, on exactly this forum. Man, now I gotta wish for something else -- oh, yeah, hurry up with wideband SACD (SACD2?)! ;-) |
| Ya got screwed... | jeskibuff
Mar 4, 2003 8:05 PM | | I have the disc, but always play it in surround mode. I searched for the 2-channel hi-res track in the play "groups", but to no avail. Then I checked out the jewel case - it didn't list the available tracks like some other DVD-A's do. Then I pulled out the booklet and there it was on the inside of the cover sheet: "This disc plays 3 ways: Adv Res stereo, Adv Res surround and Dolby Digital." I can't believe these labels are screwing up like this. I'm not ticked about this particular disc because I almost never listen in 2-channel mode anymore. A company like Rhino is well known for its good quality controls, so this is a glaring error on their part. Hopefully, these are just "birth pangs" for a new industry, and with livid email responses, they'll pay more attention to labelling the contents correctly.
Downmixing to 2-channel is a poor option - I don't like the way my Denon DVD-1600 sends the digital signal out, either, but I haven't bothered with that mode at all anyway. It just sounds worlds better in discrete high-res surround mode. Running those discrete channels through a digital blender to convert them to 2-channel definitely degrades the signal.
Sorry for the bad news! |
| |
