|   Advice on vintage receiver . . . | Pjay
Apr 19, 2001 6:12 PM | | I have been looking at ebay for a nice vintage receiver for my daughter (who is currently "borrowing" my Marantz 2270). I am considering these and any opinions would be welcome. And a link to a vintage H/K site would be much appreciated.
1. Another Marantz, say 2230- 2240. Nice but been there, done that.
2. Can get a McIntosh MA5100 locally for about $150 missing one knob. Is this older Mac SS stuff any good? Where to get the knob? (and of course, a tuner is needed).
3. Harman Kardon. Just missed a reasonable 330c. The Linear Phase 570i and 640i come up often and look ok (oh so 80s). Anyone hear them? Other H/K models?
4. Yamaha Natural Sound CR-series.
5. Sansui, well, no lust there. Probably a good choice though. Tell me about the others.
Thanks in advance.
P |
| NO LUST?!? Come On!!! (nt). | moondog
Apr 19, 2001 6:45 PM | | |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | ckelly
Apr 19, 2001 10:38 PM | | Hello Pjay
My advice is to see what she (your duaghter) wants, given the budget: what does she like in sound? What kind of power? looks (important factor IMHO)? etc?
A few more to put on the list to check out are:
- Kenwood
- SAE
- Pioneer
- NAD
- Rotel
Christopher |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | Pjay
Apr 20, 2001 5:45 AM | | She likes my 2270, she knows that. I showed her a bunch of listing on ebay and she agrees she does not want a modern plastic front. Other than that I think it is open.
Thanks
P |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | ckelly
Apr 20, 2001 11:48 AM | | Pjay,
Well, thank her on my behalf on her audio tastes. She is on the right track =). Also I find it cool that you two share the same hobby. My first amp was my dad's and I still have it: a Sansui AU-555, it is broken right now but I'll bring it back on it's feet.
Is this system going to be built from scratch, or you already have speakers and sources?
The next obvious question would be what's your/her budget?
Check out http://www.classic-audio.com
Almost any Marantz receiver should do the trick.
Another possibility is to look at the sansui 6060, 7070 ... 9090db series. These are VERY nice pieces of equipment and sound even better than they look.
Another nice receiver series is the pioneer SX series especially the "80" series with the cool VU meters.
Another way to build the system would be to get an Integrated amp and tuner.
Christopher |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | Pjay
Apr 20, 2001 1:38 PM | | I have been to the classics site. I like the Marantz but want to try another brand just for fun. The budget is under $90.
I got her a TEAC CD player and vintage JVC cassette deck. I built her a pair of Vifa p13/d27 2-ways based on common box modelling and xo software. They sound great to about 80Hz and roll off pretty quickly, a common theme in that pair.
I have been looking at the Sansuis, but they are just plain ugly (now I did it, flame time). I know they are very good quality.
I have been shying away from Pioneer becuase I know they are either very good or very bad and I don't know the numbers enough to buy.
Good input, thanks
P |
| Here's one if you act fast | Dougman
Apr 20, 2001 2:38 PM | | Try this if you act fast:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230028667 |
| Some nice Int. amp/Tuner combos - Less rushed, too | Dougman
Apr 20, 2001 2:56 PM | | Try these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1231130975
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230530117
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1231094605
The top one in particular is a superb value if it closes within your budget range. |
| OOPS, I meant that the Pioneer A7 and T5 were the best value! | Dougman
Apr 20, 2001 3:16 PM | | nt |
| OOOOoooo, my personal shopper. . . | Pjay
Apr 20, 2001 6:14 PM | | Seriously, thanks. I marked them and will follow them.
P |
| I like the SA-6500II /TX5500II combo... | ckelly
Apr 20, 2001 6:21 PM | | Also I would consider a Sansui 7070: looks very nice, has plenty of power and sounds great. I would show that model to your daughter and see what she thinks.
Christopher |
| Hey, PJay, check this one out... | ckelly
Apr 20, 2001 6:37 PM | | Here's another very nice integrated/tuner combo:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230229028
Christopher |
| I have a CA-810. KILLER AMP!!! (nt). | moondog
Apr 20, 2001 9:50 PM | | |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | shef
Apr 20, 2001 6:09 AM | | hi Pjay...I have a 2240 on my main system but the receiver that is getting the most work these days is a Pioneer sx626 that i picked up for a good price. I have really grow to like this little receiver. Just my two cents. good luck |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | Dougman
Apr 20, 2001 11:35 AM | | Avoid the Harmon Kardons - Their current stuff is much better vs. the competition than were their older units. I call this a reversal of the Kenwood/Pioneer factor.
I would see if you could find an older model Pioneer or Onkyo unit from the Early-Mid '80s Marantz and Sansui would also be great, but you are apparently looking for something different. A Pioneer SX series receiver would be great, and pretty cheap if it's not one of the top tier units like an SX-1050 or SX-950
Kenwood's Integrated Amps and Tuners were FAR better than their receivers. I would also recommend considering something like KA5100/KT5500 or KT5300 pair - they seem to crop up alot in eBay. |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | sak
Apr 21, 2001 9:32 AM | | Hey, PJay-
How about giving her the 2270 and finding a "new" vintage receiver for yourself? You might not get anything that sounds better than the 2270 (I had a 2230, and it's really good), but it's always nice to get something new.
Otherwise, a 2230 would be great for your daughter.
-sak |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | Shain
Apr 24, 2001 7:28 AM | | Marantz 2330b, is a great receiver. Not super expensive, and very nice power at 130 WPC. Beautiful to look at, and excellent FM section. I have a 2500 Marantz, and I can't tell much difference, (sound wise), when using the two. (Also have a 2270, and the have tried other brands of recievers) Like the 2230b alot!! |
| re: Advice on vintage receiver . . . | PeteH
Apr 26, 2001 8:26 PM | | The Pioneer, Kenwood, and Sansui models of the 70s were all good, solid units. The top-of-the-line models are selling for *well* above your suggested budget of $90. In some cases, particularly the Pioneer and Sansui models, the second- and third-from-the-TOTL models are pulling in pretty good prices. Lower models of the Pioneer line(s) are good buys. Same with the Kenwood and Sansui. Yamaha appeared in force a bit later than the others, but quickly won a reputation for quality and clean sound (clean design, too). Look for models CR-810 or smaller numbers. I just gave a CR-1040 (80 super clean wrms per channel) to my bro & sis-in-law.
Nothing from a major brand, 70wpc or more, will probably go for $90 on eBay. Broken, maybe.
The suggestion to look at Kenwood integrated amps is a good one. They are solid performers. Why would you need a *matching* tuner? Mix and match, hey?
Macintosh SS gear is good. Knobs are available, check eBay, for example.
Lots of smaller units available. Don't look at 'em myself, I just look for the big goobers.
But the looking is almost as fun as the listening!
Have fun, don't make it a big deal. Lots of pictures on eBay, too.
Caveat emptor.
Pete |
| I just sniped a KA-8100 for < $90 | Dougman
Apr 26, 2001 11:19 PM | | The seller listed it as merely a Kenwood Amplifier, and knew nothing about it, and said nothing about it in the description, other than, it worked. This was one of the best Integrated Amps that Kenwood ever made. The last three of these I've seen went for $145 - $170
Ultra conservative rating of 75 W/ch. at 0.02% THD, it's actually 2 monoblocks on one chassis, and more powerful than most current 120 W/ch amps. |
| It's MOSTLY marketing: | Dougman
Apr 27, 2001 1:40 PM | | The KA-9100 and KA-8100 have completely separate transformers and Capacitors for each channel: i.e. TRUE dual supplies.
The KA-7100 and KA-6100 have single transformers, each feeding split sets of capacitors, yet Kenwood called them dual supply amps: In reality, they have SOME of the benefits of dual supplies, but not all of them.
The net result is that the KA-7100 should still have it's transient response up to the level of a dual supply amp, but it WON'T have the immunity from crosstalk, or the ability to provide maximum isolated continuous power to one channel without some affect on the other channel. |
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